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How do I get started?
« on: June 16, 2011, 11:09:42 AM »
I keep thinking about brewing, since I like to cook, but I know absoultely nothing about it.  Nothing at all.

What's the start-up cost?  What kind of equipment/supplies do I need?  How much time is involved?  How much space do you need?

If there is another thread in here that addresses this stuff, point me inthe right direction.

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2011, 11:23:49 AM »
I'm no expert on the matter, but I think you need to share if you are thinking about brewing all-grain or extract.  Also, bottle or keg?

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2011, 11:28:07 AM »
I'm no expert on the matter, but I think you need to share if you are thinking about brewing all-grain or extract.  Also, bottle or keg?

See, I didn't even know that. :furley:

I would assume that extract is easier?  And I suppose I would have to bottle, since I don't have a kegerator.
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2011, 11:31:14 AM »
I don't homebrew, but I think a kit from here is a good place to start:

http://www.northernbrewer.com/brewing/starter-kits

You'll need a 7 gallon pot, an immersion chiller, some empty bottles, and an ingredient kit.

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2011, 12:35:43 PM »
i have a kit that i brought last summer with beeday money that i used once, didn't produce anything good and never used again.

i don't think i am going to be using it again either.  i thought i would like it, but i am not as detail oriented (in my personal life) that i need to be to brew beer.

if you are interested, i can sell it to you for the cheaps.

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2011, 12:45:13 PM »
If you come to Norhtern Brewer, I would recomend the better basic kit. That is about $120 to $130 depending if you get glass or better bottle carboys. Comes with everything you need and a DVD to get you going.

You will need a pot that you can boil at least 2 1/2 gallons in, the bigger the better. Full wort boil is the goal. A five gallon pot will cost you about $30 to $50 depending where you get it.

That's it for the equipment if you are doing extract which you can do on the stove top. I would highly recommend doing extract batches until you get the process down.

Most recipies and kits make five gallon batches. That equals two cases of 12oz bottles. You can use the ones you have drank or buy new ones. The ones we sell are the same as the ones New Glarus use. Just stay away from twist off bottles.

If you want to go the keg route, it will be an upfront cost of about $230 for everything assuming you have nothing. Kegging is the way to go if you are impatient.

If you can make it down to Milwaukee on a Monday or Wednesday, I can set you up and throw a discount your way.

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 12:48:30 PM »
Good info, everyone .. keep it coming.

Sounds like I should start saving empty bottles.  Probably have 15-20 of them in the recycle bin right now.
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2011, 12:53:34 PM »
Good info, everyone .. keep it coming.

Sounds like I should start saving empty bottles.  Probably have 15-20 of them in the recycle bin right now.

Yeah, I've been saving them for a while.  I have probably 7-8 cases right now.  I do plan on kegging, but not immediately.  God knows I tend to get way into my hobbies though, so it may be sooner than later...

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2011, 12:55:17 PM »
So when I want to brew a batch, how much time overall from start to finish?
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2011, 12:56:48 PM »
Good info, everyone .. keep it coming.

Sounds like I should start saving empty bottles.  Probably have 15-20 of them in the recycle bin right now.

If you are a book reader, get How to Brew by John Palmer. Great info that is useful on the first brew or your 100th brew.

The Joy of Homebrewing by Papazian is ok but very outdated (this holds true for all his books)

All the clone books suck in my opinion, some recipies are ok, but a total miss over all. 


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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2011, 01:00:03 PM »
So when I want to brew a batch, how much time overall from start to finish?

Extract will be about 2-3 hours start to finish

All grain can be done in 6 hours, but if you are doing an decotions it could be 10 hours.

It depends how long you can get to a boil and how long it takes you to cool. Chillers can rapidly cut down on the chill time.
 

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2011, 01:00:49 PM »
Good info, everyone .. keep it coming.

Sounds like I should start saving empty bottles.  Probably have 15-20 of them in the recycle bin right now.

Yeah, I've been saving them for a while.  I have probably 7-8 cases right now.  I do plan on kegging, but not immediately.  God knows I tend to get way into my hobbies though, so it may be sooner than later...

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2011, 01:02:23 PM »
Good info, everyone .. keep it coming.

Sounds like I should start saving empty bottles.  Probably have 15-20 of them in the recycle bin right now.

Yeah, I've been saving them for a while.  I have probably 7-8 cases right now.  I do plan on kegging, but not immediately.  God knows I tend to get way into my hobbies though, so it may be sooner than later...

You can always bottle from the keg. I got the BeerGun. That way you aren't left with any sediment at the bottom of the bottle and you can clear out a keg to make room for another batch.

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2011, 01:20:34 PM »
Good info, everyone .. keep it coming.

Sounds like I should start saving empty bottles.  Probably have 15-20 of them in the recycle bin right now.
Contact these guys and see if they'll hang onto empties for you. I could have grabbed a ton of empties in all sizes a couple weeks ago if I had known. Damn.
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2011, 01:28:05 PM »
Can I use bombers for bottling too?  Caps are the same size, right?
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2011, 01:30:08 PM »
Can I use bombers for bottling too?  Caps are the same size, right?

Yep to both.

Some 750s are usable too, but some have a wider crown.
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2011, 01:31:18 PM »
Can I use bombers for bottling too?  Caps are the same size, right?

Yep to both.

Some 750s are usable too, but some have a wider crown.

Should've save those over the years ... I don't buy/drink enough of them to collect very many empties.
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2011, 01:54:43 PM »
Would you be willing to make a trip thiw way to pick them up? If so I can probably get you whatever you need.
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2011, 02:00:14 PM »
Would you be willing to make a trip thiw way to pick them up? If so I can probably get you whatever you need.

Still in the exploratory stage right now, but I will let you know if I want to in the future.  :thumbup:
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2011, 02:05:47 PM »
Can I use bombers for bottling too?  Caps are the same size, right?

22s were my preference when bottling... less cleaning and sanitizing.

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2011, 02:21:06 PM »
Good info, everyone .. keep it coming.

Sounds like I should start saving empty bottles.  Probably have 15-20 of them in the recycle bin right now.

Yeah, I've been saving them for a while.  I have probably 7-8 cases right now.  I do plan on kegging, but not immediately.  God knows I tend to get way into my hobbies though, so it may be sooner than later...

You can always bottle from the keg. I got the BeerGun. That way you aren't left with any sediment at the bottom of the bottle and you can clear out a keg to make room for another batch.

Yeah, getting a BeerGun is probably in my future.

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2011, 02:39:55 PM »
If you like creating/manipulating recipes in cooking, you'll have fun in homebrewing. My recommendation is to start out using a kit in the first few batches (mainly because you'll be able to focus on the steps and not so much the ingredients).

Once you get a hang of the process, have fun with it. You can focus on tweaking a favorite type of beer, or just get creative with a completely different batch every time.

If you can, find someone you know who homebrews and let them help you through the process. Pay them back with a few bottles of your brew.

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2011, 02:50:45 PM »
I know there is a local homebrewer's club too ... but since I generally hate about 97% of the people I meet, I doubt I'll be looking into that any time soon.
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2011, 02:52:08 PM »
I know there is a local homebrewer's club too ... but since I generally hate about 97% of the people I meet, I doubt I'll be looking into that any time soon.

Does this follow to online message boards also?  If so, who made the 3% cut?
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2011, 02:55:34 PM »
I know there is a local homebrewer's club too ... but since I generally hate about 97% of the people I meet, I doubt I'll be looking into that any time soon.

Does this follow to online message boards also?  If so, who made the 3% cut?

Hard to say - I haven't met most of you yet. :mellow:
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2011, 03:00:23 PM »
I know there is a local homebrewer's club too ... but since I generally hate about 97% of the people I meet, I doubt I'll be looking into that any time soon.

As far as homebrew clubs go The Green Bay Rackers are one of the better ones in the state. The ones in the SE part of WI leave a lot to be desired.


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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2011, 03:10:41 PM »
google john t palmer how to brew and read the online version.  if it sounds like something you'd enjoy, get the book as it's an invaluable resource.
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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2011, 03:32:03 PM »
I keep thinking about brewing, since I like to cook, but I know absoultely nothing about it.  Nothing at all.

What's the start-up cost?  What kind of equipment/supplies do I need?  How much time is involved?  How much space do you need?

If there is another thread in here that addresses this stuff, point me inthe right direction.

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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2011, 05:34:33 PM »
google john t palmer how to brew and read the online version.  if it sounds like something you'd enjoy, get the book as it's an invaluable resource.

That's exactly what I was going to suggest, it will answer most of your questions.

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2011, 05:15:28 PM »
Just noting this 32 Qt. "factory second" brew kettle on sale at Williams.  This is a great price due the imperfections, which are immaterial I think:  http://www.williamsbrewing.com/FACTORY-SECOND-BREWERS-EDGE-32-QUART-BREWKETTLE-P2766C203.aspx

One minor comment on the Palmer book - the online version is an older edition.  For the most part, that doesn't matter, but he has updated quite a bit in the current print version.  For example, he no longer recommends using a secondary fermentation, except in cases of dry hopping, oaking, or aging for an extended period.  Otherwise, its a great book.   I also really like the Palmer/Jamil book "Brewing Classic Styles".  Also check out BrewTV and numerous other videos on Youtube to see actual demonstrations of techniques.  You can spend hours watching video when considering something new in this hobby.

Good luck and have fun.  I have enjoyed the hobby since getting into it about a year ago.

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Re: How do I get started?
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2011, 10:10:26 AM »
Just noting this 32 Qt. "factory second" brew kettle on sale at Williams.  This is a great price due the imperfections, which are immaterial I think:  http://www.williamsbrewing.com/FACTORY-SECOND-BREWERS-EDGE-32-QUART-BREWKETTLE-P2766C203.aspx


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