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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #750 on: April 09, 2020, 02:40:57 PM »
I have thought of selling but it is trading by a different name.
The thing about selling is you could ask for a ridiculous price. And if some fool pays it then they will learn a nice lesson  ;D

To be fair, I have never sold beer and it feels a bit greasy to me. But if I had nearly a dozen old Dark Lords I might be doing some research online.
https://mybeercellar.com/?itm=68977

It used to be the supreme taboo of the beer world, and still is as far as selling traded beer. Nowadays though, most rare releases retail for pretty jacked up prices.

If you have a fair amount of old DL you bought directly, at this point a vintage has more collectible value than drinking it, imho. We traded a few for $30-40 Side Project bottles, so that's a pretty good tradeoff IMO. I'd trade them all for lambic now... Euro traders seem to love DL and "big stouts". However, i'm also retired from trading.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #751 on: April 09, 2020, 09:01:48 PM »
I have a 2012 Cable Car that was given to me by a former co-worker that has been collecting dust for the last 7.5 years. It's been pretty tempting to sell, not going to lie.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #752 on: April 12, 2020, 05:48:19 PM »
New Glarus unplugged quad.  I cant even imagine how old this is.  I think its batch 0197, any way to date it?
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #753 on: April 12, 2020, 06:54:49 PM »
New Glarus unplugged quad.  I cant even imagine how old this is.  I think its batch 0197, any way to date it?

One time release in 2007 :cheers:

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #754 on: April 12, 2020, 08:12:50 PM »
I have a 2012 Cable Car that was given to me by a former co-worker that has been collecting dust for the last 7.5 years. It's been pretty tempting to sell, not going to lie.
Probably a few hundred?

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #755 on: April 13, 2020, 01:58:47 PM »
I have a 2012 Cable Car that was given to me by a former co-worker that has been collecting dust for the last 7.5 years. It's been pretty tempting to sell, not going to lie.

I've sold bottles and don't regret it.
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #756 on: April 13, 2020, 02:07:34 PM »
Opened and enjoyed an Expedition from 2008, Bell's 25th Anniversary and 30th Anniversary.

Got fairly shwasted in chat
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #757 on: April 19, 2020, 07:06:07 PM »
New Glarus unplugged quad.  I cant even imagine how old this is.  I think its batch 0197, any way to date it?

One time release in 2007 :cheers:

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #758 on: April 19, 2020, 07:06:51 PM »
2016 BCS about to get taken down. 
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #759 on: April 22, 2020, 02:05:17 PM »
2018 KBS last night  :banned:

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #760 on: April 22, 2020, 09:33:29 PM »
How were the BCS and the KBS?

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« Reply #761 on: April 23, 2020, 10:28:05 AM »
The KBS was fantastic. It is consistently one of my favorite special treat barrel aged stouts. I usually prefer it fresh for the in your face coffee, but this one was still fantastic. More fudgy.

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« Reply #762 on: April 28, 2020, 11:07:26 AM »
BCS was drinking great.  Right in the window
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #763 on: May 09, 2020, 09:40:25 AM »
2017 Bigfoot last night
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #764 on: May 09, 2020, 12:54:32 PM »
2014 Central Waters BBS for me

was a bit thin, but otherwise tasted just fine.
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #765 on: June 06, 2020, 09:58:59 PM »
Liefman’s Kriek Brut 2015. Off a store shelf. I forgot how good this beer is. Just the meddling of fruit to sourness. The opposite of what US brewers are doing.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #766 on: June 07, 2020, 08:16:14 PM »
Unibroue Grand Reserve 17.  Brewed 2015.
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #767 on: June 08, 2020, 05:43:49 PM »
Liefman’s Kriek Brut 2015. Off a store shelf. I forgot how good this beer is. Just the meddling of fruit to sourness. The opposite of what US brewers are doing.

I am assuming this is not sweetened?

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #768 on: June 08, 2020, 07:46:06 PM »
Liefman’s Kriek Brut 2015. Off a store shelf. I forgot how good this beer is. Just the meddling of fruit to sourness. The opposite of what US brewers are doing.

I am assuming this is not sweetened?
There’s not much they don’t sweeten unfortunately. Never had this one, just the “Cuvee Brut” which was sweet. ISO

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #769 on: June 08, 2020, 11:50:21 PM »
Liefman’s Kriek Brut 2015. Off a store shelf. I forgot how good this beer is. Just the meddling of fruit to sourness. The opposite of what US brewers are doing.

I am assuming this is not sweetened?
There’s not much they don’t sweeten unfortunately. Never had this one, just the “Cuvee Brut” which was sweet. ISO
Looks like the Cuvee Brut and this are the same (or very similar) beers. This has cherries, cherry juice, and even artificial flavor. The flavor addition is not something I like. However, sweet is relative. It is not sweet like Lindemans sweet stuff.  Its not sweet like the sour fruit beers that are common nowadays.

More than happy to send a bottle to anyone that wants one.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #770 on: June 09, 2020, 06:23:14 AM »
Liefman’s Kriek Brut 2015. Off a store shelf. I forgot how good this beer is. Just the meddling of fruit to sourness. The opposite of what US brewers are doing.

I am assuming this is not sweetened?
There’s not much they don’t sweeten unfortunately. Never had this one, just the “Cuvee Brut” which was sweet. ISO
Looks like the Cuvee Brut and this are the same (or very similar) beers. This has cherries, cherry juice, and even artificial flavor. The flavor addition is not something I like. However, sweet is relative. It is not sweet like Lindemans sweet stuff.  Its not sweet like the sour fruit beers that are common nowadays.

More than happy to send a bottle to anyone that wants one.
Thanks, it should be available locally but I haven’t been out beer hunting in awhile. :cry:

Cuvee Brut was not good, imho. Artificial cherry and sweetener. It’s blended with Goudenband, which has been more tart recently. I don’t think they’re the same beers, vaguely recall seeing them both show up in the market at the same time.

Quote from: my Cuvee-Brut review
Dark reddish brown, slightly pink parfait foam rises to the rim of the glass and recedes slowly. In the light, the color is an attractive dark scarlet with bright clarity. Delicate Belgian lace rings the glass.

Smells like barrel aged cherry kool-aid. Some slight complexity from the barrel, but minimally funky and  maximally artificial. Overly sweet with noticeable artificial sweetener in the taste. Chalky cherry vitamin tablets. Sweet cherry juice spiked with lacto and sweetener... bleh.

Slight tartness, but not sour. Obviously sweetened, even more than Liefmans Kriekbier used to be. Cherry cough syrup, Ludens cough drops. Dry chalky aftertaste with soda carbonation. Drinks like soda, easily and numbingly sweet, just weird and cloying, absolutely one-dimensional. Basically nothing like the old Kriekbier that was blended with Goudenband, then again, Goudenband is nothing like it used to be either (currently backsweetened also). Waste of money...

Here's hoping that Duvel will return to a "more traditional" product with less added sweetener (as they are fully capable of, see Kriekbier) with the Liefmans brands.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #771 on: June 09, 2020, 01:54:17 PM »
The two versions are aliased on Ratebeer.  In its heyday, the Belgian admins were very successful sleuths on RB. They could have been wrong or the difference is minor.

I'll picking up Goudenband next time I get a chance. Haven't had that in years as well.

I missed getting to try the unfiltered and unsweetened version of the Kriek in Belguim. It was available at Hotel Erasmus but the one time I went in 2008 the keg was kicked.  :(
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #772 on: June 09, 2020, 02:46:33 PM »
The two versions are aliased on Ratebeer.  In its heyday, the Belgian admins were very successful sleuths on RB. They could have been wrong or the difference is minor.

I'll picking up Goudenband next time I get a chance. Haven't had that in years as well.

I missed getting to try the unfiltered and unsweetened version of the Kriek in Belguim. It was available at Hotel Erasmus but the one time I went in 2008 the keg was kicked.  :(

I'd almost written off Goudenband, but had it a year or so ago and it was great again. :thumbup: 2002 375ml was the god-tier vintage imho. Old brown-logo paper bottles from the 80's-90's were sweet. Had one at Kulminator that was pretty meh.

Years ago, (maybe 2005ish?) I remember having the old Kriekenbier before the brewery was sold. That was great, sweet & sour with a lot of funky old wood character.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #773 on: June 20, 2020, 06:40:29 PM »
The two versions are aliased on Ratebeer.  In its heyday, the Belgian admins were very successful sleuths on RB. They could have been wrong or the difference is minor.

I'll picking up Goudenband next time I get a chance. Haven't had that in years as well.

I missed getting to try the unfiltered and unsweetened version of the Kriek in Belguim. It was available at Hotel Erasmus but the one time I went in 2008 the keg was kicked.  :(

I'd almost written off Goudenband, but had it a year or so ago and it was great again. :thumbup: 2002 375ml was the god-tier vintage imho. Old brown-logo paper bottles from the 80's-90's were sweet. Had one at Kulminator that was pretty meh.

Years ago, (maybe 2005ish?) I remember having the old Kriekenbier before the brewery was sold. That was great, sweet & sour with a lot of funky old wood character.



Drinking a 2016 I just bought. Too sweet. Maybe the last good one I had was later than 2016...i’ll keep an eye out for more recent vintages. I just wish they’d quit fucking around with it, seems like it’s never the same beer. Doubly ironic that they put “sour ale: gets better with age” on the front label. Also telling is the “ingredients list”: “beer. contains barley malt.” okay :rolleyes:
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #774 on: June 20, 2020, 07:02:19 PM »
damn shame to read. I almost pulled the trigger but was waiting on you (I saw you bought it in the other thread).

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #775 on: June 21, 2020, 12:43:30 AM »
damn shame to read. I almost pulled the trigger but was waiting on you (I saw you bought it in the other thread).
Yeah, really can’t trust it anymore. Had the 2016 a couple years ago, but it didn’t age well. Still sweet, which is strange if not pasteurized.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #776 on: June 22, 2020, 02:58:07 PM »
Drank a 2009 Jolly Pumpkin Bam Noire last night.  I have to think it was cellared properly, and it smelled amazing.

The taste wasn't -bad-, but it was definitely off.  Probably about five years past its prime, but still drinkable.
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #777 on: June 22, 2020, 05:04:10 PM »
Drank a 2009 Jolly Pumpkin Bam Noire last night.  I have to think it was cellared properly, and it smelled amazing.

The taste wasn't -bad-, but it was definitely off.  Probably about five years past its prime, but still drinkable.

That was one of my least fav JP's, always seemed kinda thin.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #778 on: July 06, 2020, 11:44:03 PM »
Uinta Brett Tripel bottled on 06/08/17. Bought off shelf. Lovely strong Brett. No sign of oxidation. Big ass head but not a gusher. Still some lactose-like sweetness. Highly recommended for Brett fans.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #779 on: July 15, 2020, 09:51:45 PM »
Pannepot 2014 on a rainy night, pretending i’m at Kulminator again. :banned:

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #780 on: July 17, 2020, 11:40:04 PM »
2016 Bigfoot.

I think I like my Bigfoot fresh.  Maybe its in the ugly duckling stage right now but its just a sweet, bitter mess at the moment.  Overall I’ll say that American barleywines should be drank fresh(ish) and English you age.
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« Reply #781 on: July 18, 2020, 12:40:47 AM »
2016 Bigfoot.

I think I like my Bigfoot fresh.  Maybe its in the ugly duckling stage right now but its just a sweet, bitter mess at the moment.  Overall I’ll say that American barleywines should be drank fresh(ish) and English you age.
I’ve always been in the minority as someone that doesn’t like it fresh or aged. I often find it to be a sweet and bitter mess. Oxidation kicks in fast, IMO.

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« Reply #782 on: July 18, 2020, 10:38:34 AM »
2016 Bigfoot.

I think I like my Bigfoot fresh.  Maybe its in the ugly duckling stage right now but its just a sweet, bitter mess at the moment.  Overall I’ll say that American barleywines should be drank fresh(ish) and English you age.
I’ve always been in the minority as someone that doesn’t like it fresh or aged. I often find it to be a sweet and bitter mess. Oxidation kicks in fast, IMO.
My opinion is the same on Bigfoot, the only good ones i’ve had are fresh and 10-15+ years old. Not really a fan anywhere in between. I’ve had exceptional aged American barleywines, New Glarus and East End Gratitude for example. King Henry, Mother of All Storms, etc.

Since I don’t like the heavy oxidation of most old barleywines & stouts, I don’t really age them anymore.

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« Reply #783 on: July 18, 2020, 09:44:30 PM »
went looking through my pile of beer trying to decide which i would be OK drinking as i want to maintain doubles.

cracked and picked a 2017 Expedition. got doubles of many past years, but only 1 of these left now. couldn't bring myself to pop any of the others.
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #784 on: July 20, 2020, 01:39:50 PM »
went looking through my pile of beer trying to decide which i would be OK drinking as i want to maintain doubles.

cracked and picked a 2017 Expedition. got doubles of many past years, but only 1 of these left now. couldn't bring myself to pop any of the others.

How was it?
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #785 on: July 20, 2020, 01:45:48 PM »
went looking through my pile of beer trying to decide which i would be OK drinking as i want to maintain doubles.

cracked and picked a 2017 Expedition. got doubles of many past years, but only 1 of these left now. couldn't bring myself to pop any of the others.

How was it?

very, very good.  no noticeable difference for me from a fresh bottle.
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #786 on: July 20, 2020, 01:53:04 PM »
went looking through my pile of beer trying to decide which i would be OK drinking as i want to maintain doubles.

cracked and picked a 2017 Expedition. got doubles of many past years, but only 1 of these left now. couldn't bring myself to pop any of the others.

How was it?

very, very good.  no noticeable difference for me from a fresh bottle.

Note to self, buy more Expedition :banned:
Just about the only aged stout I do like...

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« Reply #787 on: August 04, 2020, 10:55:32 AM »
Recently opened up a 1999 JW Lees Harvest Ale that I bought from West Lakeview Liquors 7-8 years ago probably.  Excellent carbonation. Combination of prune juice, raisins, sherry and cardboard in the taste. Surprisingly the least amount of yeast I've ever seen in the bottom of a bottle of JW Lees.  Fun experience



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« Reply #788 on: August 04, 2020, 11:10:25 AM »
Nice, was it enjoyable? :cheers:
I've had some old ones that were good and bad, unique though.

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« Reply #789 on: August 04, 2020, 11:25:35 AM »
Nice, was it enjoyable? :cheers:
I've had some old ones that were good and bad, unique though.

Yeah, it was good.  I had no problem drinking the whole bottle by myself.
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« Reply #790 on: August 04, 2020, 11:32:56 AM »
Nice, was it enjoyable? :cheers:
I've had some old ones that were good and bad, unique though.

Yeah, it was good.  I had no problem drinking the whole bottle by myself.
Nice! :cheers:

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« Reply #791 on: August 04, 2020, 12:05:36 PM »
What’s that glass?

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #792 on: August 04, 2020, 12:05:54 PM »
I have some old JW Lees as well.  Maybe I'll get into one this weekend
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #793 on: August 04, 2020, 01:28:06 PM »
I have some old JW Lees as well.  Maybe I'll get into one this weekend
What year? I'm sitting on a '94 that I can't bring myself to open yet.
The Force is what gives a brewer his power. It's an energy field created by yeast. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It converts polysaccharides to ethyl alcohol.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #794 on: August 04, 2020, 02:33:44 PM »
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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #795 on: August 04, 2020, 04:09:56 PM »
I have some old JW Lees as well.  Maybe I'll get into one this weekend
What year? I'm sitting on a '94 that I can't bring myself to open yet.

2004.  Saw some 1996 Samichlaus which I should try as well.

2003 120 Minutes which might have lots its hop bite by now  :unsure:

And then there is the Triple Bock
Should we take a cab home, Jesus?
Shit man, we can hoof it from here.
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But can you walk on this much beer?

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #796 on: August 04, 2020, 09:49:25 PM »
I have some old JW Lees as well.  Maybe I'll get into one this weekend
What year? I'm sitting on a '94 that I can't bring myself to open yet.

2004.  Saw some 1996 Samichlaus which I should try as well.

2003 120 Minutes which might have lots its hop bite by now  :unsure:

And then there is the Triple Bock
I’d kill for that Sami. And I would love try that triple buck. I bet it’s much better now than fresh.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #797 on: August 04, 2020, 10:04:39 PM »
The last Triple Bock I remember, maybe 10 years ago, we stirred up the sediment with a dowel rod and it was like black tar hash. It tasted great though, and was a vast improvement from simply decanting it.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #798 on: August 05, 2020, 08:49:22 AM »
The last Triple Bock I remember, maybe 10 years ago, we stirred up the sediment with a dowel rod and it was like black tar hash. It tasted great though, and was a vast improvement from simply decanting it.
I had the '97 vintage in 2008 and it was ok but I wouldn't have called it great. I wish I stocked up though. I doubt its overly oxidized at this point.

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Re: Kill-The-Cellar Week
« Reply #799 on: August 05, 2020, 09:30:24 AM »
The last Triple Bock I remember, maybe 10 years ago, we stirred up the sediment with a dowel rod and it was like black tar hash. It tasted great though, and was a vast improvement from simply decanting it.
I had the '97 vintage in 2008 and it was ok but I wouldn't have called it great. I wish I stocked up though. I doubt its overly oxidized at this point.

The beer wasn't great, only the sediment was. It may or may not have been hash. :unsure: