StL Area beer tripping

[beastiefan2k]

Trying to do a few beer stops today. Starting with Stubborn German.

Downtown Waterloo is old time-y looking but seemingly empty. A cool bar, a bbq joint, old school pharmacy, one shop, a park, and this brewpub

The pub is well decorated, has a cool cellar space, and very inviting. No food and lots of bourbon.

I have a flight: 5 German style beers and their 12% blueberry coffee imperial stout.

The lagers are well lagered but I’m not fan of the hopping. Not sure why these Saaz hops taste so different to me. The Dark Lager for some reason has diacetyl but everything else is well made.

The big stout is for the modern day fans but still works for me.

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Maybe they're Americanized Saaz?
https://hopheadfarms.com/classic-noble-hop-with-an-alpha-kick/

What's next on the itinerary?

[beastiefan2k]

Maybe they're Americanized Saaz?
https://hopheadfarms.com/classic-noble-hop-with-an-alpha-kick/

What's next on the itinerary?

I should have mentioned that around the corner is another brewpub 😁.

Hopskeller. Just got a sampler and a Chicago style dog. Will update as soon as try them.

Sad to hear about these Americanized Saaz hop. To me, the basic lager was very lemon, which is not what I typically associate with Saaz. But, I could also be very out of practice recognizing hop flavors.

[beastiefan2k]

When you have a hard time telling apart a lager from an ale, it’s not a good sign. A local warned me this place isn’t worth it. He was right. Nothing is off but everything is thick and syrupy for the style. They made a spruce and juniper beer but I can only taste sweet sugars. The London Lager (is this an actual historic thing??) and marzen are so underattenuated compared to what I just drank. At least the English brown tastes like a brown ale with American yeast and too much malt sweetness.

[beastiefan2k]

I’ve never waited so long to be served a hot dog.

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When you have a hard time telling apart a lager from an ale, it’s not a good sign. A local warned me this place isn’t worth it. He was right. Nothing is off but everything is thick and syrupy for the style. They made a spruce and juniper beer but I can only taste sweet sugars. The London Lager (is this an actual historic thing??) and marzen are so underattenuated compared to what I just drank. At least the English brown tastes like a brown ale with American yeast and too much malt sweetness.

Probably just a clone of this:
https://www.meantimebrewing.com/beers/core-beers/london-lager/

Bleh on the beers. Hope the hotdog is better!

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You're about 20 min from Lieferbrau which actually looks decent.

https://goo.gl/maps/Txhc49YebGCHYfGW8

Edit:
Millpond was the good one:
https://goo.gl/maps/zh11YUGs9JSGRsrQ9

[beastiefan2k]

Just left Millpond, decent.

Going to Heavy Riff in StL.

The hotdog was shit. Not the shit but just shitty. Fuck that place.

[beastiefan2k]

Finishing off at an old standard. Going to Schlafly.

[thewimperoo]

Civil Life, Urban Chestnut, 2nd Shift, Perennial, Side Project would be my top beer picks for St. Louis. Eat pizza at Union Loafers, that's the most important thing to do in that town. 

[beastiefan2k]

Civil Life, Urban Chestnut, 2nd Shift, Perennial, Side Project would be my top beer picks for St. Louis. Eat pizza at Union Loafers, that's the most important thing to do in that town.

My in laws are in StL, so I have done most of the beer things here. The new visits today were in Illinois. I agree with the beer spots you mention. But as an NY’er, I can definitely say that there is no worthwhile pizza around here 

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Just left Millpond, decent.

Going to Heavy Riff in StL.

The hotdog was shit. Not the shit but just shitty. Fuck that place.

Millpond contract brews for other startups? Sounds like Pilot Project here. “Brewery incubator” model.

Let’s just say i’ve never had a decent “Chicago-style” anything in central IL. There’s great food here and there, but so much crap also.

[beastiefan2k]

Millpond contract brews for other startups?

They brew homebrew recipes.

[beastiefan2k]

This was my second time visiting Heavy Riff and its a pretty decent brewery. I'd add it to the recommendation for breweries in the town.

Schlafly was great, it was nice to be at a place that had a normal selection of styles and no lactose in sight.

[thewimperoo]

Civil Life, Urban Chestnut, 2nd Shift, Perennial, Side Project would be my top beer picks for St. Louis. Eat pizza at Union Loafers, that's the most important thing to do in that town.

My in laws are in StL, so I have done most of the beer things here. The new visits today were in Illinois. I agree with the beer spots you mention. But as an NY’er, I can definitely say that there is no worthwhile pizza around here 

 

This isn't provel bullshit

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Dayum

The only pizza i’ve had in STL was Cugino’s, sadly it was provel

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Update?

[beastiefan2k]

Update?

oh, that was it. Had one day of beering. But... new post in different region.

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So you're beer tripping elsewhere now?

TIL: There's a Höfbrau outside of East Saint Louis, huh.

[beastiefan2k]

So you're beer tripping elsewhere now?

TIL: There's a Höfbrau outside of East Saint Louis, huh.

I’ve been to that spot. The beer is really amazing and the location is surprising. Perhaps planning for the future.

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There are a lot of breweries in the region, just saw this one in Collinsville: Old Herald. Sounds like it was named after a newspaper. Basic styles, but could be good, who knows.

https://www.oldheraldbrewing.com/menus/

[beastiefan2k]

There are a lot of breweries in the region, just saw this one in Collinsville: Old Herald. Sounds like it was named after a newspaper. Basic styles, but could be good, who knows.

https://www.oldheraldbrewing.com/menus/

There are a good deal of breweries outside of StL County I haven't visited yet.  TBH, I really want to go back to Stubborn German.

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There are a lot of breweries in the region, just saw this one in Collinsville: Old Herald. Sounds like it was named after a newspaper. Basic styles, but could be good, who knows.

https://www.oldheraldbrewing.com/menus/

There are a good deal of breweries outside of StL County I haven't visited yet.  TBH, I really want to go back to Stubborn German.

Many years ago I went to maybe the worst brewery i've ever been to. It was north of STL, "Grafton Winery & Brewhaus". They had "light", "dark", and a blend of the two: "brown". Total junk. They serve their beers a week after brewing, not sure how that works. Recent reviews also mention they have dirty draft lines. So don't waste your time on that one...

Old Bakery in Alton is pretty good, i've only had their packaged beer and fest samples though.