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***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« on: April 01, 2021, 04:55:02 PM »
More and more breweries these days are attempting spontaneous fermentation. Not simply an American trend mimicking the Belgians anymore, it's truly become a global phenomenon at this point. While lambic producers also make spontaneous beer, i've omitted them here since there's already a dedicated lambic thread, and wanted this one to be more broadly defined.

Feel free to post whatever, places you heard about, articles, pics, etc.
Interested to see what's out there in the current Spon-scene™. :nerd: :ale:

Ales Agullons (ES)
Allagash (ME - US)
Alus Darbnīca Labietis (LT)
Alvarado Street / “Yeast of Eden” (US)
American Solera (OK - US)
Antidoot (BE)
Area Two (US)
Barrique Brewing (US)
Beachwood Blendery (CA - US)
Black Project (CO - US)
Block 15 (OR - US)
Brasserie Gallia (FR)
Brasserie Trois Dames (CH)
Burning Sky (UK)
Cervezas Salvajes Hercules (MX)
City Barrel (KCMO - US)
Counter Weight (CT - US)
Crossover Blendery (UK)
De Garde (OR - US)
Dovetail (IL - US)
Field & Oak (Kane) (US)
Funk Factory (WI - US)
HOMES (MI - US)
Jester King (US)
Libertine (US)
Little Fish (OH - US)
Logsdon (US)
Micro Brasserie La Montagnarde (FR)
Mikkeller (DK)
Muckraker (NJ - US)
Narrow Gauge (MO - US)
New Glarus (WI - US)
Norbæk (DK)
OEC (CT -US)
Pit Caribou (QC - CA)
Primitive Beer (CO - US)
Pure Project (CA - US)
Radix Fermentation (WI - US)
Russian River (CA - US)
Scorched Earth (IL - US)
Side Project (MO - US)
Speciation (MI - US)
Stockholm (SE)
The Referend (PA - US)
The Veil (VA - US)
Tommy Sjef Wild Ales (NL)
Transient Artisan Ales (MI - US)
Triple Crossing (VA - US)
Whiner Beer (IL - US)
White Rooster (IL - US)
Wild Mind Artisan Ales (MN - US)
Yazoo (TN - US)

Alternate thread title "Cool Shit from the Cooship"... :lol: :bag:

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2021, 06:42:55 AM »
Wild Mind Artisan Ales

Coolship

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2021, 10:20:04 AM »
Wild Mind Artisan Ales

Coolship

Cool, added to the list. Have you had any of their spon beers? :popcorn:

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2021, 10:57:23 AM »
Wild Mind Artisan Ales

Coolship

Cool, added to the list. Have you had any of their spon beers? :popcorn:

I haven't, which is especially strange since one of my former employees brews there.

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2021, 11:06:22 AM »
Wild Mind Artisan Ales

Coolship

Cool, added to the list. Have you had any of their spon beers? :popcorn:

I haven't, which is especially strange since one of my former employees brews there.

Looks like some of their other beers have distro in the Quad Cities on the IL side. Interesting...

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2021, 11:37:40 AM »
Not sure if I mentioned this elsewhere but The Referend uses a mobile coolship (or at least used to). They contract brew and cool the wort in the back of a truck then bring it to their facility and barrel age.

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2021, 11:45:06 AM »
Wild Mind Artisan Ales

Coolship

Cool, added to the list. Have you had any of their spon beers? :popcorn:

I haven't, which is especially strange since one of my former employees brews there.
Looks like this place has had some drama
https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/blog/whats-fair-in-beer-and-litigation-the-role-of-non-competes-non-disclosures-and-trade-secrets-in-brewing

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2021, 12:02:15 PM »
Jolly Pumpkin?
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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2021, 12:43:32 PM »
Not sure if I mentioned this elsewhere but The Referend uses a mobile coolship (or at least used to). They contract brew and cool the wort in the back of a truck then bring it to their facility and barrel age.

This is a pretty cool model, and it seems like a good way to keep your brewery "clean" while taking all the wild yeast/ bugs to a separate facility. Funk Factory and Back Acre do the same thing, although Back Acre does mixed ferm, possibly without a coolship.

Jolly Pumpkin?

AFAIK, Lambicus Dexterius was a one-off experiment awhile back. Are they doing anything else spontaneous?
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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2021, 12:58:00 PM »
Urban Artifact

https://www.artifactbeer.com/spontaneous-fermentation/

So they isolate wild yeasts, culture them and inoculate barrels with them...then call that spontaneous? :confused:

"Using sterilized jars of brewer’s wort, we are effectively stacking the deck in our favor and only actively selecting the yeast and bacteria which work best for our desired purposes."

Imho, cultivating wild yeasts to brew with isn't the same as 100% spontaneous. You're cherry-picking the wild yeast essentially.

Now they just make slushee beer. Some of them are good, but... :shrug:
There are a lot of pretenders out there, that call their beer lambic but are pitching wild yeast or just adding cherries to a wild ale and calling it "kriek".

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2021, 02:17:07 PM »
Wild Mind Artisan Ales

Coolship

Cool, added to the list. Have you had any of their spon beers? :popcorn:

I haven't, which is especially strange since one of my former employees brews there.
Looks like this place has had some drama
https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/blog/whats-fair-in-beer-and-litigation-the-role-of-non-competes-non-disclosures-and-trade-secrets-in-brewing

Yeah, there is a lot of shit that hasn't made articles too.

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2021, 04:21:54 PM »
Not sure if Transient gave up on doing Spontaneous, but they've done them in the past. 
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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2021, 06:57:55 PM »
Wild Mind Artisan Ales

Coolship

Cool, added to the list. Have you had any of their spon beers? :popcorn:

I haven't, which is especially strange since one of my former employees brews there.
Looks like this place has had some drama
https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/blog/whats-fair-in-beer-and-litigation-the-role-of-non-competes-non-disclosures-and-trade-secrets-in-brewing

Yeah, there is a lot of shit that hasn't made articles too.
:popcorn:

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2021, 08:33:54 PM »
Not sure if Transient gave up on doing Spontaneous, but they've done them in the past.
:goodposting:
Wasn’t sure either, will take a look...

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2021, 01:58:24 PM »
Not sure if I mentioned this elsewhere but The Referend uses a mobile coolship (or at least used to). They contract brew and cool the wort in the back of a truck then bring it to their facility and barrel age.
My first mental image was a big coolship on a flatbed going down the highway, and I thought "that's gotta have hella good suspension"  :lol:
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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2021, 09:48:13 PM »
Not sure if Transient gave up on doing Spontaneous, but they've done them in the past.
:goodposting:
Wasn’t sure either, will take a look...

Sounds like they still do, as of this podcast last year:
https://beerandbrewing.com/podcast-episode-121-transient-artisan-ales-founder-chris-betts-talks-dry/

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2021, 11:12:51 AM »
Not sure if I mentioned this elsewhere but The Referend uses a mobile coolship (or at least used to). They contract brew and cool the wort in the back of a truck then bring it to their facility and barrel age.
My first mental image was a big coolship on a flatbed going down the highway, and I thought "that's gotta have hella good suspension"  :lol:

*bump* *splash* Ope!

Here's Narrow Gauge's mobile coolship with a roof on it:



https://www.feastmagazine.com/features/st-louis/article_4817bd32-652e-11e9-ab7f-6f4ee9bff1c4.html

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2021, 11:22:18 AM »
Not sure if I mentioned this elsewhere but The Referend uses a mobile coolship (or at least used to). They contract brew and cool the wort in the back of a truck then bring it to their facility and barrel age.
My first mental image was a big coolship on a flatbed going down the highway, and I thought "that's gotta have hella good suspension"  :lol:

*bump* *splash* Ope!

Here's Narrow Gauge's mobile coolship with a roof on it:



https://www.feastmagazine.com/features/st-louis/article_4817bd32-652e-11e9-ab7f-6f4ee9bff1c4.html
Cool pic and writeup.

So I assume it's Park->Fill->Cool->Drain before moving the rig
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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2021, 11:31:09 AM »
Not sure if I mentioned this elsewhere but The Referend uses a mobile coolship (or at least used to). They contract brew and cool the wort in the back of a truck then bring it to their facility and barrel age.
My first mental image was a big coolship on a flatbed going down the highway, and I thought "that's gotta have hella good suspension"  :lol:

*bump* *splash* Ope!

Here's Narrow Gauge's mobile coolship with a roof on it:



https://www.feastmagazine.com/features/st-louis/article_4817bd32-652e-11e9-ab7f-6f4ee9bff1c4.html
Cool pic and writeup.

So I assume it's Park->Fill->Cool->Drain before moving the rig
Yeah sounds like he fills the "stainless steel IBC tote tank" for transport. Never seen one, just the plastic square tote containers. Dovetail uses those for fruit aging since they're easier to clean out.

Found another brewery releasing their first spon beer, Triple Crossing in Richmond, VA: BryanC>hey

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After 4 seasons of experimentation, a serious amount of dumped beer, recipe and process tweaking, and a small bit of luck, we are ready to release our first ever spontaneously fermented ale. Wild Air was brewed in January of 2019, utilizing our own unique methods (inspired by the Belgian tradition) of turbid mashing, aged hops, extended boiling and cooled in our coolship to take advantage of the Richmond microflora found in the cool night air.

After extended maturation, a single 500L puncheon was selected to referment and condition on 1.5lbs/gallon of fresh raspberries from Sneads Farm in Fredericksburg, VA. A hefty, yet restrained by some measures, amount of fruit was used to extract luscious raspberry character while still maintaining the unique fermentation characteristics so often found in Spontaneous beer.

The resulting beer is one we are extremely proud of, with notes of fresh raspberry brambles, crushed raspberries, earthy hay, and river rock minerality finished with the bright acidity the style is known for. We hope you enjoy this little taste of RVA as much as we do and we look forward to more beers using our local microflora in the future.

$22, 500ml bottles, 6% abv.

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2021, 02:29:50 PM »
Radix Fermentation, a spon-focused brewery in planning in Milwaukee... :excited: Looks like they're already brewing/have beer in the market.

https://www.instagram.com/radixfermentation/?hl=en

https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2021/04/07/microbrewery-focused-on-sours-and-spontaneous-ferm.html

Microbrewery focused on sours and spontaneous fermentation: Beer Biz MKE

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Apr 7, 2021

The Milwaukee Business Journal’s Beer Biz MKE blog looks at every corner of Milwaukee’s beer industry from distribution and canning to production and beer events. Follow along for updates on breweries coming and leaving town and the biggest trends in craft beer.

MobCraft employees start microbrewery focused on spontaneous fermentation, sour beers

Radix Fermentation, a microbrewery in Milwaukee, released its first beer about one month ago after receiving its federal and state brewing permits in 2020. That is because co-owners Adam and Kayla Thomas are focused on spontaneous fermentation of beers, a process that takes a longer time to complete.

Adam Thomas first started his brewing career in California at the now-closed Tahoe Mountain Brewing Co. He then returned to Milwaukee in 2016 to help with the launch of MobCraft Beer in Milwaukee's Walker's Point neighborhood. He is the director of barrel operations, and his wife Kayla is the operations director.

"When we moved back, we’ve always been talking about having our own brewery. We really wanted to focus in on not just sour beer but spontaneous fermentation," Adam Thomas said. "It was really awesome that Henry [Schwartz] and Andrew [Gierczak], the two owners of MobCraft, allowed me and Kayla to start this thing while working full-time under their company."

Radix Fermentation comes from the Latin word for "root."

"The whole idea behind that is we lived on the West Coast for awhile, did some traveling. Starting this brought us back to the roots of where we started, and we’re setting down roots and starting to develop this small microbrewery one little beer at a time," Thomas said.

Radix Fermentation has an alternating proprietorship with MobCraft, which allows the brewery to utilize MobCraft's food processing plant for brewing production and aging. Thomas built his own brewhouse, which he uses for the beer production. Radix Fermentation then sells its beer at local beer bars such as Sugar Maple and Draft & Vessel as well as at New Baron's Brewing Cooperative's new location in the Lincoln Warehouse in Bay View.

"Right now, we’re releasing product as it develops. There’s no way to really put a timeline on the types of beers that we’re producing. Ideally, once every couple of months it’d be nice to release something. You can’t really rush it," Thomas said.

Because Radix Fermentation focuses on spontaneous fermentation, Thomas said the brewery can only produce beer on certain days of the year when the overnight lows are at a certain temperature. The ideal time for such brewing is spring and fall.

"Then it could take a year, two years, three years to develop. Then we’ll bottle it, bottle condition. We have a few kegs that we’ll put out. It’s more of a passion project than a full-fledged business that’s turning out cases and cases of product. We’re taking it low and slow as far as more production," Thomas said.

Thomas did say he is actively looking for floor space, predominantly for barrel storage and aging, but also to have a small taproom space to do bottle releases and have a few beers on draft. Because he works full-time for MobCraft along with operating this microbrewery, he said there is not a lot of time to secure a location and seek funding from banks.

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2021, 02:32:56 PM »
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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2021, 10:14:36 PM »
Found another brewery releasing their first spon beer, Triple Crossing in Richmond, VA: BryanC>hey

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Wild Air: Raspberry

Looks like it’s still available too.  Guess I’ll have to take one for the team and check it out.  IMO - TC is one of the better breweries here.  If they put this out @22 a bottle, it’s probably pretty good.

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2021, 09:34:31 AM »
Found another brewery releasing their first spon beer, Triple Crossing in Richmond, VA: BryanC>hey

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Wild Air: Raspberry

Looks like it’s still available too.  Guess I’ll have to take one for the team and check it out.  IMO - TC is one of the better breweries here.  If they put this out @22 a bottle, it’s probably pretty good.

Have they released other spon stuff in the past, or is this their first one?

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2021, 12:54:13 PM »
Found another brewery releasing their first spon beer, Triple Crossing in Richmond, VA: BryanC>hey

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Wild Air: Raspberry

Looks like it’s still available too.  Guess I’ll have to take one for the team and check it out.  IMO - TC is one of the better breweries here.  If they put this out @22 a bottle, it’s probably pretty good.

Have they released other spon stuff in the past, or is this their first one?

Far as I know, your original post was correct, this is the first one.  They’ve released sours before, but I don’t think any spontaneous.

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2021, 01:59:53 PM »
Found another brewery releasing their first spon beer, Triple Crossing in Richmond, VA: BryanC>hey

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Wild Air: Raspberry

Looks like it’s still available too.  Guess I’ll have to take one for the team and check it out.  IMO - TC is one of the better breweries here.  If they put this out @22 a bottle, it’s probably pretty good.

Have they released other spon stuff in the past, or is this their first one?

Far as I know, your original post was correct, this is the first one.  They’ve released sours before, but I don’t think any spontaneous.
Aha, forgot that part ;) I rarely remember what I posted yesterday, let alone last week. :bag:

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2021, 04:00:31 PM »
Wayward Lane Brewig opened last weekend in an old hop drying barn about 45 minutes south of me in Schoharie.  Theu have a coolship upstairs and have been talking to Scotty Veltman at Indian Ladder about how and when to brew the wort. :thumbup:
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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2021, 04:17:51 PM »
Wayward Lane Brewig opened last weekend in an old hop drying barn about 45 minutes south of me in Schoharie.  Theu have a coolship upstairs and have been talking to Scotty Veltman at Indian Ladder about how and when to brew the wort. :thumbup:

:excited: Wow, really exciting! :cheers:

Do many of these exist? Could it apply for landmark status? I ask bc they've been landmarked in Belgium, not sure i've ever seen one in the states, but surely they're all over the PNW.

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2021, 02:38:18 PM »
Jolly Pumpkin?

AFAIK, Lambicus Dexterius was a one-off experiment awhile back. Are they doing anything else spontaneous?
Paging OHL-ED...

Not sure what they're doing in the fancy new brew space (been there many times but never been in the brew area) but the old facility in Dexter was all open fermenting with oak foeders IIRC. I would think any of their standards and specials are still being done the same way.

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2021, 02:54:41 PM »
Haven't had any desire to drink, so I haven't been drinking.

Who are you, and what have you done with the real OHLRangers?

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2021, 04:00:51 PM »
Jolly Pumpkin?

AFAIK, Lambicus Dexterius was a one-off experiment awhile back. Are they doing anything else spontaneous?
Paging OHL-ED...

Not sure what they're doing in the fancy new brew space (been there many times but never been in the brew area) but the old facility in Dexter was all open fermenting with oak foeders IIRC. I would think any of their standards and specials are still being done the same way.

Sorry, been away from this space (and everything, in general  :lol:) for a while. Haven't had any desire to drink, so I haven't been drinking. Just beginning to catch up on a bunch of threads here. #completist

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2021, 04:40:50 PM »
Haven't had any desire to drink, so I haven't been drinking.

Who are you, and what have you done with the real OHLRangers?

I have no fucking idea.  :sadbanana: :D

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2021, 10:22:23 AM »
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AFAIK, Lambicus Dexterius was a one-off experiment awhile back. Are they doing anything else spontaneous?
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Not sure what they're doing in the fancy new brew space (been there many times but never been in the brew area) but the old facility in Dexter was all open fermenting with oak foeders IIRC. I would think any of their standards and specials are still being done the same way.

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2021, 01:46:25 PM »
Debút
Cervezas Salvajes Hercules - Oaxaca, MX

Two year spontaneous blend, aged in Chardonnay barrels from France, Hungary, & USA.

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 Brewery News | December 14, 2020
In January the company will make a second launch of a beer with wild yeast, with a year of storage
Mexico City, December 14, 2020-Company Cervecera Hercules continues to give something to talk about and the best thing is that it is more beer. With more than a hundred different styles produced this year, the 'Debút' of its Hercules Wild Beers line and the reactivation of its shipments throughout Mexico, the Queretan factory is one of the most innovative and visionary in the independent industry.

With the launch of Debút, a spontaneous fermentation beer matured in white and red wine barrels, Hercules is the first brewery in Mexico to use this peculiar method born in Belgium.

Josh Brengle, production manager of the brewery, revealed to Journalism From the Bar that in March 2021 an expert in fermentation with wild yeast will join his team, he said that he is a brewer from the United States and will help them strengthen their program.

"He knows much more than I do about that subject, I still can't say his name because he's still in his brewery, but we're very excited because in spontaneous fermentation he's a teacher," he said.

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It's for another way of making beer.

For the brewery, entering a new stage involved a strong investment in machinery and equipment, a lot of planning, patience and care.

Before the end of 2020, the company takes the lead in the production of fermented beers with environmental bacteria that reproduce at low temperatures, so the Hercules team looks forward to the coldest nights of the year in Querétaro, to cook.

"I think some breweries have worked with bacteria, but it seems to me that we are the first with spontaneous, I hope we have more breweries in the country doing things like this," he said.

In the facilities of CCH, located in a former textile factory in the Barrio de Hercules, there is beer fermenting in more than a hundred barrels, about 70 are spontaneous fermentation, in the rest they used wild yeasts such as brettanomyces and have two oak foeders that they conditioned with a 'brett de la casa', there 35 hectoliters of beer ferment.

Making beers using one of the oldest techniques, is in Josh's head since he was a homebrewer and even more so after his trip to Belgium in 2008. Six months after his arrival in Hercules (4 years ago) he had the idea of installing a coolship (tub, traditionally copper, in which the must is exposed to inoculate with the bacteria of the environment), three years ago on one of the coldest nights, they made their first cooking.

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Debút was stored in oak barrels from the United States, France and Hungary, previously used to mature wine and once the brewer decided which barrels were ready (he chose 2 and 3 years of aging), he made a blend (mixture) with white and red wines from the United States and France.

"When we make those types of beer I think of a library: we are taking some barrels that we like in this blend this year and the others stay for the next blend, we are going to have several years old beer in barrels with different characteristics," he explained.

Josh confesses that the result left them surprised.

“With the right elements, these types of beers can be made in many places,” he said.

Debút is a complex beer, with a pleasant acidity, well balanced with malts and wild notes. It has aromas of stable, earth and leather. Golden, slightly cloudy and 6 degrees of alcohol.

5,500 pieces of 750 ml and 375 were bottled.

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Domestic shipments and more 'wild beer'

With the release of Debút, Hercules reactivated domestic shipments of beer that months ago he decided to postpone until he found a more accessible way for the consumer.

Josh commented that deliveries are no longer overnight, which raised the cost. Currently depending on the distance, they take up to three days and that lowers the cost for the customer. However, he indicated that they will evaluate a better way to transport them in the summer.

In the meantime, the beer will continue to sprout.

And before spontaneous fermentations, in Hercules they had begun to fill barrels, thinking of having stock available year after year and adding seasonal fruits.

In this regard, Josh announced that in January they will make a second launch of a fermented beer with 'brett', it has a year of storage, one will be with fruit and the other will not and it is part of a very large project in which they worked.

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Brengle reported that every year in winter they will launch Debút, in addition they will have editions of 'wild beers' of autumn and spring, all will be bottled and with seasonal fruits, among which you already have on the list are the capulines.

"We are very happy, we want to get more involved, do more experiments."

He warned that despite the good comments they have received with Debút, most have been from brewers, so they are still waiting for the response of consumers for whom this type of beer is still unknown.

He observed that there is potential for acidic styles in Mexico, because our palate enjoys such flavors, however, he said that it is necessary to provide more information about the style to be able to sell it and, ultimately, they would consider exporting to the United States.

"I hope that people give it a chance, in part it is educating on the part of the brewery so that people understand why it is different from a normal beer, it will be a lot of work, but it is possible, in the garden we can approach more people," he said.

You can place your order at www.almacenhercules.mx.

Follow Hercules at https://www.facebook.com/CCHercules

https://www.periodismodesdelabarra.com/blog/2020/12/14/apuesta-hercules/

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2021, 07:35:48 PM »
Wayward Lane Brewig opened last weekend in an old hop drying barn about 45 minutes south of me in Schoharie.  Theu have a coolship upstairs and have been talking to Scotty Veltman at Indian Ladder about how and when to brew the wort. :thumbup:

:excited: Wow, really exciting! :cheers:

Do many of these exist? Could it apply for landmark status? I ask bc they've been landmarked in Belgium, not sure i've ever seen one in the states, but surely they're all over the PNW.

No idea. Heading down there again next weekend, will ask them.  Also, this:  https://www.facebook.com/waywardlanebrewing/posts/519207019458377
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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2021, 10:34:27 PM »
Wayward Lane Brewig opened last weekend in an old hop drying barn about 45 minutes south of me in Schoharie.  Theu have a coolship upstairs and have been talking to Scotty Veltman at Indian Ladder about how and when to brew the wort. :thumbup:

:excited: Wow, really exciting! :cheers:

Do many of these exist? Could it apply for landmark status? I ask bc they've been landmarked in Belgium, not sure i've ever seen one in the states, but surely they're all over the PNW.

No idea. Heading down there again next weekend, will ask them.  Also, this:  https://www.facebook.com/waywardlanebrewing/posts/519207019458377

Awesome :cheers:

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2021, 12:21:35 PM »
Added these two:

Stockholm Brewing - Stockholm, SE
Brewing coolship spon beers for 2 years.
https://www.stockholmbrewing.com/beers#cellarseries

Field & Oak (Kane Brewing side project) - Ocean, NJ
First spon release was last weekend.
https://www.instagram.com/fieldandoak/

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2021, 05:26:50 PM »
Added these two:

Stockholm Brewing - Stockholm, SE
Brewing coolship spon beers for 2 years.
https://www.stockholmbrewing.com/beers#cellarseries

Field & Oak (Kane Brewing side project) - Ocean, NJ
First spon release was last weekend.
https://www.instagram.com/fieldandoak/

I really need to make it down to Kane.  Not far from Carton, either.   :cheers: :ale:
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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2021, 08:43:44 PM »
Added these two:

Stockholm Brewing - Stockholm, SE
Brewing coolship spon beers for 2 years.
https://www.stockholmbrewing.com/beers#cellarseries

Field & Oak (Kane Brewing side project) - Ocean, NJ
First spon release was last weekend.
https://www.instagram.com/fieldandoak/

I really need to make it down to Kane.  Not far from Carton, either.   :cheers: :ale:

Plus there’s the Referend outside of Trenton.  :excited::cheers:

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2021, 08:52:04 PM »
Should we take a cab home, Jesus?
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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2021, 03:47:55 PM »
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"A unique beer from the wildlife season of 2019 - in November, the wild yeasts found in Eimur lived in a must in the open sky for almost a year and a half, but shortly before bottling, a hearty hop cat was in the beer. This dry sour beer tasting landscape combines spontaneous fermentation traditions with a modern desire for a juicy hop aroma. The spicy esters and phenols of wild plants in this drink are complemented by the aroma of tropical fruity Galaxy hops, which makes it refreshing and uniquely modern, while maintaining clear indications of its wild origin."

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2021, 03:51:05 PM »
Casa Agria does some.  Still haven't made it there

http://www.grainsandyeast.com/blog/meet-casa-agria-specialty-ales-sour-to-the-roots3/2015

Having trouble finding anything specific, their website just says "fruited sours" and doesn't list their beers. :mellow:

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2021, 04:42:15 PM »
Casa Agria does some.  Still haven't made it there

http://www.grainsandyeast.com/blog/meet-casa-agria-specialty-ales-sour-to-the-roots3/2015

Having trouble finding anything specific, their website just says "fruited sours" and doesn't list their beers. :mellow:

They are great!  I went by there a few years ago and really enjoyed their beers.  Not sure where to find a list of their stuff though.  They have started distribution in my area but it has primarily been their IPAs which I didn't even know they brewed. 

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2021, 05:29:42 PM »
Casa Agria does some.  Still haven't made it there

http://www.grainsandyeast.com/blog/meet-casa-agria-specialty-ales-sour-to-the-roots3/2015

Having trouble finding anything specific, their website just says "fruited sours" and doesn't list their beers. :mellow:

They are great!  I went by there a few years ago and really enjoyed their beers.  Not sure where to find a list of their stuff though.  They have started distribution in my area but it has primarily been their IPAs which I didn't even know they brewed.
We have seen a few of their beers here too in limited drops. Looking through Untappd I couldn't find anything spontaneous, mostly wild or mixed-fermentation.

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2021, 01:14:25 AM »
I had a Logsdon Farmhouse Ales Deux Fermes spontaneous ale re-fermented with grapes.  It was great.  It seemed much smoother (less acidic) and had a nice complex yet mellow flavor. 

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2021, 10:23:22 AM »
I had a Logsdon Farmhouse Ales Deux Fermes spontaneous ale re-fermented with grapes.  It was great.  It seemed much smoother (less acidic) and had a nice complex yet mellow flavor.

Nice! :cheers:
I've got a Spontane Kriek in the fridge, hope to drink it soon. :wine:

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2021, 02:58:35 PM »
What Is Spontaneous Fermentation, and How Does It Affect the Taste of Wine, Beer, and Booze?

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/spontaneous-fermentation

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2021, 12:21:58 AM »
Casa Agria does some.  Still haven't made it there

http://www.grainsandyeast.com/blog/meet-casa-agria-specialty-ales-sour-to-the-roots3/2015

Having trouble finding anything specific, their website just says "fruited sours" and doesn't list their beers. :mellow:

They are great!  I went by there a few years ago and really enjoyed their beers.  Not sure where to find a list of their stuff though.  They have started distribution in my area but it has primarily been their IPAs which I didn't even know they brewed.
We have seen a few of their beers here too in limited drops. Looking through Untappd I couldn't find anything spontaneous, mostly wild or mixed-fermentation.

I’ll stop by one of these days to confirm
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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2021, 04:42:02 AM »
Casa Agria does some.  Still haven't made it there

http://www.grainsandyeast.com/blog/meet-casa-agria-specialty-ales-sour-to-the-roots3/2015

Having trouble finding anything specific, their website just says "fruited sours" and doesn't list their beers. :mellow:

They are great!  I went by there a few years ago and really enjoyed their beers.  Not sure where to find a list of their stuff though.  They have started distribution in my area but it has primarily been their IPAs which I didn't even know they brewed.
We have seen a few of their beers here too in limited drops. Looking through Untappd I couldn't find anything spontaneous, mostly wild or mixed-fermentation.

I’ll stop by one of these days to confirm
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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2021, 03:09:44 PM »
Added Block 15 Brewing Company, Corvallis, OR.

Turbulent Consequence spontaneous series, they have released a 1-2-3 year blend, several fruited versions and even a Duivelsbier.

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Re: ***Official*** Spontaneous Fermentation Thread
« Reply #49 on: May 07, 2021, 04:14:40 PM »
Muckraker Beermaker - Franklin, NJ

https://www.muckrakerbeer.com/s/shop

It's odd they go to the trouble to brew spontaneous, but then crank out abominations like this. :mellow: :no:

https://untappd.com/user/MattSRoss81/checkin/978847002
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