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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2021, 04:55:36 AM »
Kazematten

Wipers Times and Saison Tremist are the main imported beers, I swear i’ve seen Wipers on the shelf somewhere, maybe in WI. Still around as far as I know.

Coincidentally, this related article came out today:
https://www.belgiansmaak.com/ieper-brouwerij-kazematten/?mc_cid=29d8ef49cb&mc_eid=0a95840486

Kinda :tldr: but very detailed. Didn't know the Rodenbach guy was affiliated.
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« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2021, 12:22:35 PM »
I don’t remember seeing Wipers Times in the States.

That article, I don’t think I’ve ever seen ramparts used outside of the national anthem. But what a fucking pedigree with these folks.

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« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2021, 01:52:47 PM »
I don’t remember seeing Wipers Times in the States.

That article, I don’t think I’ve ever seen ramparts used outside of the national anthem. But what a fucking pedigree with these folks.

I’ve only seen it once at a big box store and didn’t recognize it at the time. Yeah, didn’t know the whole backstory, pretty cool.

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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2021, 11:03:43 AM »
Literally obscure :nerd: :P One of the gnarliest labels i've seen. Maybe they could use a dehumidifier in the old cellaroo, just sayin.



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« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2021, 11:30:31 AM »
Seems like something exploded in the cellar and no one cleaned off the other bottles. Over a few years, moldy.

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« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2021, 06:02:21 PM »
That moisture can't be good for the crown.

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« Reply #56 on: March 13, 2021, 02:25:21 PM »
That moisture can't be good for the crown.

Looks like it was still carbed at least. :banned:

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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #57 on: April 12, 2021, 05:17:52 PM »
Literally obscure :nerd: :P One of the gnarliest labels i've seen. Maybe they could use a dehumidifier in the old cellaroo, just sayin.



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Good name for this one: Moldy Taint Saint

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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2021, 04:02:25 PM »


Something about this label I love. The look on the guy's face and "inperturbable" under it.

De Leite Cuvée Jeun'homme

Supposedly imported by a FL importer but i've never seen it around here.

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« Reply #59 on: June 11, 2021, 11:59:25 PM »
I am a fan of De Leite. I am assuming you have a fresh shipment since they have been on the East coast for a few years.  I think all the imported stuff is sour. These bottles are a bit pricey for me, so I have only had 2 of their beers (not this one) and was very satisfied.

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« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2021, 12:14:44 AM »
I am a fan of De Leite. I am assuming you have a fresh shipment since they have been on the East coast for a few years.  I think all the imported stuff is sour. These bottles are a bit pricey for me, so I have only had 2 of their beers (not this one) and was very satisfied.

We had Cuvée Soeur’ise in Brussels, but I didn’t know it was imported until today. This was just a pic I found online, sadly never saw it in Chicago.

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« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2021, 10:26:36 AM »
Drank a St. Feullien Saison from the can yesterday, it was good. Surprisingly it was tart.

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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2021, 12:29:16 PM »
A beautiful, in-depth story of one of the few remaining family brewers of Oud Bruin, Brouwerij Cnudde in Eine. Visiting this place was one of the most memorable experiences we had in Belgium. Lots of WWII history in the article, and a connection to US soldiers from Ohio that helped to liberate the town. The cemetery stuff is a local joke, but it keeps getting repeated, a little too earnestly here, i'd say. :tombstone:  :-X :mellow:

https://www.belgiansmaak.com/brouwerij-cnudde-oud-bruin-eine-bison/
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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2021, 04:47:43 PM »
https://www.oudbruinfest.com/

Never say never. This is pretty cool, several breweries i've never heard of. :banned:

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« Reply #64 on: July 22, 2021, 12:43:04 PM »
https://www.oudbruinfest.com/

Never say never. This is pretty cool, several breweries i've never heard of. :banned:
Nice.

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« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2021, 11:03:03 AM »
A beautiful, in-depth story of one of the few remaining family brewers of Oud Bruin, Brouwerij Cnudde in Eine. Visiting this place was one of the most memorable experiences we had in Belgium. Lots of WWII history in the article, and a connection to US soldiers from Ohio that helped to liberate the town. The cemetery stuff is a local joke, but it keeps getting repeated, a little too earnestly here, i'd say. :tombstone:  :-X :mellow:

https://www.belgiansmaak.com/brouwerij-cnudde-oud-bruin-eine-bison/

Here's the corresponding podcast, i'm just now getting through it. Pretty interesting.

https://www.belgiansmaak.com/ep031-cemetery-juice-brouwerij-cnudde/

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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #66 on: August 05, 2021, 12:10:25 AM »
Was looking at this place for dinner Friday and saw Abt 12 on nitro.  Seen this on nitro before?

https://www.stoutburgersandbeers.com/hollywood#menu=on-tap
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« Reply #67 on: August 05, 2021, 11:16:19 AM »
Was looking at this place for dinner Friday and saw Abt 12 on nitro.  Seen this on nitro before?

https://www.stoutburgersandbeers.com/hollywood#menu=on-tap

Never saw on nitro before, could it be a standard keg that they just add nitro to at this place?

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« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2021, 09:38:24 AM »
When I first started seeking out a lot of new beers, many were Belgian. Out of curiosity I just sorted my old reviews and counted almost 1K Belgian-style beers, but only 579 of those were actually Belgian. That's still a lot, but I fear the days of endless variety of BE beers are over, at least in the US. With Shelton closing down, I wonder if any new importers will even try to take their place.

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« Reply #69 on: September 11, 2021, 11:43:57 PM »
When I first started seeking out a lot of new beers, many were Belgian. Out of curiosity I just sorted my old reviews and counted almost 1K Belgian-style beers, but only 579 of those were actually Belgian. That's still a lot, but I fear the days of endless variety of BE beers are over, at least in the US. With Shelton closing down, I wonder if any new importers will even try to take their place.
The lambics will keep coming  ;D

While I love Belgian beer and would love to see new stuff, to be fair there isn’t anything that is no longer imported that I really miss. The one exception is des Rocs but they haven’t been imported in at least a decade.

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« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2021, 11:24:55 AM »
When I first started seeking out a lot of new beers, many were Belgian. Out of curiosity I just sorted my old reviews and counted almost 1K Belgian-style beers, but only 579 of those were actually Belgian. That's still a lot, but I fear the days of endless variety of BE beers are over, at least in the US. With Shelton closing down, I wonder if any new importers will even try to take their place.
The lambics will keep coming  ;D

While I love Belgian beer and would love to see new stuff, to be fair there isn’t anything that is no longer imported that I really miss. The one exception is des Rocs but they haven’t been imported in at least a decade.

For me it’s more about seeing that vast selection of cool obscure beers that I had no idea what they were. I want to go back to that time of discovery and trying new things again. Lots of hidden gems over the years, some not made anymore. Roman Dobbelen Bruinen is one that comes to mind, I think it got replaced with Adriaan Brouwer which wasn’t the same.

Shelves like this you just don’t see anymore. Maybe in Belgium.
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« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2021, 05:49:44 PM »
Speaking of obscure, I saw this brewery recently and they are new to me:

https://herkenrode.com/

I didn’t want to splurge on a $15 4-pack at the moment. But now I’m curious. I wish they’d at least let me mix the dubbel and triple.


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« Reply #72 on: September 13, 2021, 09:46:57 AM »
Speaking of obscure, I saw this brewery recently and they are new to me:

https://herkenrode.com/

I didn’t want to splurge on a $15 4-pack at the moment. But now I’m curious. I wish they’d at least let me mix the dubbel and triple.

Cool. I wonder if that's actually a brewery or a contract brewer. Looks like Cornelissen brews it. The story of nuns brewing beer was too good to pass up I guess. https://brouwerijcornelissen.be/en/beers/herkenrode-noctis/

"Beer marketing companies" have been running rampant there over the last few years. Seems like Belgian beer was shunned there for years/taken for granted by the drinking public, now everyone wants to cash in.
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« Reply #73 on: September 13, 2021, 10:14:10 PM »
I want to go back to that time of discovery and trying new things again.

47 styles of hazy ipa don’t interest you?

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« Reply #74 on: September 14, 2021, 10:45:48 AM »
I want to go back to that time of discovery and trying new things again.

47 styles of hazy ipa don’t interest you?

What else ya got? :coffee:

Seriously, you go to a new brewery these days, it's 8 hazy IPA's, 8 fruited kettle sours, and a pilsner. "Oh, that's what the brewer drinks." :shrug:

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« Reply #75 on: September 14, 2021, 11:23:39 AM »
I want to go back to that time of discovery and trying new things again.

47 styles of hazy ipa don’t interest you?

What else ya got? :coffee:

Seriously, you go to a new brewery these days, it's 8 hazy IPA's, 8 fruited kettle sours, and a pilsner. "Oh, that's what the brewer drinks." :shrug:

And a pastry stout
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« Reply #76 on: September 14, 2021, 12:19:14 PM »
I want to go back to that time of discovery and trying new things again.

47 styles of hazy ipa don’t interest you?

What else ya got? :coffee:

Seriously, you go to a new brewery these days, it's 8 hazy IPA's, 8 fruited kettle sours, and a pilsner. "Oh, that's what the brewer drinks." :shrug:

And a pastry stout

And a seltzer or two.  :facepalm:

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« Reply #77 on: September 14, 2021, 12:46:17 PM »
I want to go back to that time of discovery and trying new things again.

47 styles of hazy ipa don’t interest you?

What else ya got? :coffee:

Seriously, you go to a new brewery these days, it's 8 hazy IPA's, 8 fruited kettle sours, and a pilsner. "Oh, that's what the brewer drinks." :shrug:

And a pastry stout

And a seltzer or two.  :facepalm:

I get the seltzer play at least.  Lean into the "gluten free" of it all. 
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« Reply #78 on: September 14, 2021, 04:54:14 PM »
Speaking of obscure, I saw this brewery recently and they are new to me:

https://herkenrode.com/

I didn’t want to splurge on a $15 4-pack at the moment. But now I’m curious. I wish they’d at least let me mix the dubbel and triple.

Cool. I wonder if that's actually a brewery or a contract brewer. Looks like Cornelissen brews it. The story of nuns brewing beer was too good to pass up I guess. https://brouwerijcornelissen.be/en/beers/herkenrode-noctis/

"Beer marketing companies" have been running rampant there over the last few years. Seems like Belgian beer was shunned there for years/taken for granted by the drinking public, now everyone wants to cash in.
Same complaints back when Mikkeller started. But do we know if Herkenrode has its own brewers/recipes or its just a crafty label?

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« Reply #79 on: September 14, 2021, 05:06:26 PM »
Speaking of obscure, I saw this brewery recently and they are new to me:

https://herkenrode.com/

I didn’t want to splurge on a $15 4-pack at the moment. But now I’m curious. I wish they’d at least let me mix the dubbel and triple.

Cool. I wonder if that's actually a brewery or a contract brewer. Looks like Cornelissen brews it. The story of nuns brewing beer was too good to pass up I guess. https://brouwerijcornelissen.be/en/beers/herkenrode-noctis/

"Beer marketing companies" have been running rampant there over the last few years. Seems like Belgian beer was shunned there for years/taken for granted by the drinking public, now everyone wants to cash in.
Same complaints back when Mikkeller started. But do we know if Herkenrode has its own brewers/recipes or its just a crafty label?

Mikkeller is something else entirely, they're bent on world domination. These are small marketing companies pushing 1-2 brands, taking up shelf space and tap handles from actual breweries. Much more story/concept based than gypsy brewers. No idea about Herkenrode, but I can't find any business info for them. Maybe it's owned by Cornelissen?
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« Reply #80 on: September 14, 2021, 10:30:34 PM »
Speaking of obscure, I saw this brewery recently and they are new to me:

https://herkenrode.com/

I didn’t want to splurge on a $15 4-pack at the moment. But now I’m curious. I wish they’d at least let me mix the dubbel and triple.

Cool. I wonder if that's actually a brewery or a contract brewer. Looks like Cornelissen brews it. The story of nuns brewing beer was too good to pass up I guess. https://brouwerijcornelissen.be/en/beers/herkenrode-noctis/

"Beer marketing companies" have been running rampant there over the last few years. Seems like Belgian beer was shunned there for years/taken for granted by the drinking public, now everyone wants to cash in.
Same complaints back when Mikkeller started. But do we know if Herkenrode has its own brewers/recipes or its just a crafty label?

Mikkeller is something else entirely, they're bent on world domination. These are small marketing companies pushing 1-2 brands, taking up shelf space and tap handles from actual breweries. Much more story/concept based than gypsy brewers. No idea about Herkenrode, but I can't find any business info for them. Maybe it's owned by Cornelissen?

Is Mikkeller bigger than just that name?  Feels like they need to be struggling like all pseudo craft breweries at this point
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« Reply #81 on: September 15, 2021, 10:16:44 AM »
Speaking of obscure, I saw this brewery recently and they are new to me:

https://herkenrode.com/

I didn’t want to splurge on a $15 4-pack at the moment. But now I’m curious. I wish they’d at least let me mix the dubbel and triple.

Cool. I wonder if that's actually a brewery or a contract brewer. Looks like Cornelissen brews it. The story of nuns brewing beer was too good to pass up I guess. https://brouwerijcornelissen.be/en/beers/herkenrode-noctis/

"Beer marketing companies" have been running rampant there over the last few years. Seems like Belgian beer was shunned there for years/taken for granted by the drinking public, now everyone wants to cash in.
Same complaints back when Mikkeller started. But do we know if Herkenrode has its own brewers/recipes or its just a crafty label?

Mikkeller is something else entirely, they're bent on world domination. These are small marketing companies pushing 1-2 brands, taking up shelf space and tap handles from actual breweries. Much more story/concept based than gypsy brewers. No idea about Herkenrode, but I can't find any business info for them. Maybe it's owned by Cornelissen?

Is Mikkeller bigger than just that name?  Feels like they need to be struggling like all pseudo craft breweries at this point

Ownership wise? I think they're independent, but surely have many investors to run 18 Mikkeller bars around the world, and four breweries.

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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #82 on: October 11, 2021, 09:23:16 AM »
Picked this one up recently: Alvinne Omega

OMEGA
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alcohol percentage: 6 %
Flemish Sour Ale

Omega is a sessionable, pale sour beer - part of the “Omega – Phi – Sigma” trilogy. Omega matures in stainless steel tanks where the Morpheus yeast imparts a refreshing sourness.


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« Reply #83 on: October 20, 2021, 04:34:55 PM »
Anyone tried any of the barrel-aged Chimays? :popcorn:

Saw a couple but they were pretty pricey. :$:

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« Reply #84 on: October 23, 2021, 04:38:04 PM »
Picked this one up recently: Alvinne Omega

OMEGA
refreshing pale sour beer
alcohol percentage: 6 %
Flemish Sour Ale

Omega is a sessionable, pale sour beer - part of the “Omega – Phi – Sigma” trilogy. Omega matures in stainless steel tanks where the Morpheus yeast imparts a refreshing sourness.
About a decade ago I used to be a big fan of Alvinne but haven’t been into them in a while. How was this? I remember it as just ok.

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« Reply #85 on: October 23, 2021, 04:45:47 PM »
Anyone tried any of the barrel-aged Chimays? :popcorn:

Saw a couple but they were pretty pricey. :$:
I came across a store in Jersey that mispriced the half bottles of the barrel fermented Reserve for like 7.99. I bought one and enjoyed it. Tasted like a smoothed out version of the blue label. But it definitely not worth the regular price (like $27 for a half bottle). FWIW, I returned to get another bottle and it’s in my cellar. So, if you ever make it out to Bmore I’d be happy to share  :cheers: But I may actually come to Chicago in May if pandemic starts to slow.

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« Reply #86 on: October 23, 2021, 11:05:34 PM »
Anyone tried any of the barrel-aged Chimays? :popcorn:

Saw a couple but they were pretty pricey. :$:
I came across a store in Jersey that mispriced the half bottles of the barrel fermented Reserve for like 7.99. I bought one and enjoyed it. Tasted like a smoothed out version of the blue label. But it definitely not worth the regular price (like $27 for a half bottle). FWIW, I returned to get another bottle and it’s in my cellar. So, if you ever make it out to Bmore I’d be happy to share  :cheers: But I may actually come to Chicago in May if pandemic starts to slow.
Cool, thanks :thumbup: I think they might still be around here, just didn’t want to pull the trigger. :$:

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« Reply #87 on: November 17, 2021, 12:40:29 PM »


Titsenbier, say it with me. :D


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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #88 on: December 22, 2021, 07:24:34 PM »
I’ve lost track of what is readily available versus difficult to find.  One of more stores had a bunch of Fantomes, some I don’t recall seeing.  Which of these are common?
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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #89 on: December 22, 2021, 07:59:38 PM »
I’ve lost track of what is readily available versus difficult to find.  One of more stores had a bunch of Fantomes, some I don’t recall seeing.  Which of these are common?

The regular saison is probably the most common, most of the other stuff is seasonal or one-off. Haven’t seen any here for a few years.

They’ve done a few collabs since hiring a new brewer a few years ago. Del Rey is one that comes to mind the last time I saw a Fantome, which was fairly common a few years ago. Otherwise, Hiver, Noel, Pissenlit, and Printemps were generally common.
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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #90 on: December 23, 2021, 11:46:21 AM »
Also, Forest Ghost Dark & Light seem to have made the rounds at the same time as Del Rey.

Occasionally i'll find a pretty obscure Fantome, the last one was in Iowa, "Artist 2". I remember finding the last dusty bottle of "La Gourmande" on a forgotten shelf in the northern suburbs. That was back the mid 2000's. The selection of Fantome in other cities always seems to be better and more eclectic than Chicago. I guess this was due to Shelton's antics in the last decade, but it was always a nice bonus to pick up random Fantomes on the road. :drive:

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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #91 on: December 27, 2021, 10:12:57 PM »
Also, Forest Ghost Dark & Light seem to have made the rounds at the same time as Del Rey.

Occasionally i'll find a pretty obscure Fantome, the last one was in Iowa, "Artist 2". I remember finding the last dusty bottle of "La Gourmande" on a forgotten shelf in the northern suburbs. That was back the mid 2000's. The selection of Fantome in other cities always seems to be better and more eclectic than Chicago. I guess this was due to Shelton's antics in the last decade, but it was always a nice bonus to pick up random Fantomes on the road. :drive:

Went with a Strange Ghost tonight.  First for me I think.  It was different, good
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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #92 on: December 28, 2021, 10:50:12 AM »
Also, Forest Ghost Dark & Light seem to have made the rounds at the same time as Del Rey.

Occasionally i'll find a pretty obscure Fantome, the last one was in Iowa, "Artist 2". I remember finding the last dusty bottle of "La Gourmande" on a forgotten shelf in the northern suburbs. That was back the mid 2000's. The selection of Fantome in other cities always seems to be better and more eclectic than Chicago. I guess this was due to Shelton's antics in the last decade, but it was always a nice bonus to pick up random Fantomes on the road. :drive:

Went with a Strange Ghost tonight.  First for me I think.  It was different, good

Cool :cheers: Haven't seen that in years. Magic Ghost was pretty good too, has spirulina or green tea added to make it green. Always wanted to try Éte, but it's eluded me.
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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #93 on: December 29, 2021, 11:00:52 AM »
Pulled the trigger on another BH order :bag:

De Struise Robert the Great RIS

This qualifies as obscure in the Struise catalog...everyone's heard of Black Albert but not this one. Had pretty nice ratings, so I got one, along with a Pannepot '21. Hesitated on the Deca Port BA Vleteren 12 & 8, certainly obscure with decent ratings, also an Xmas/Winter brew from Florik Thuisbrouwerij.

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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #94 on: January 06, 2022, 10:54:28 AM »


Just came across this one in the old albums from TDG '19. Had with lunch, Plattekaas at Den Haas in Gooik.


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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #95 on: January 06, 2022, 10:59:28 AM »
Why does everything look so great in Belgium?

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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #96 on: January 06, 2022, 11:09:01 AM »
Why does everything look so great in Belgium?

Because it is! At least it was before covid... hope everyone pulls through. :(

I get pretty nostalgic looking at those old photos. :cry:

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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #97 on: January 19, 2022, 09:53:59 AM »
File under mildy interesting... just found the artwork for the Dirty Horse label:



I guess the Struise fellows are into Australian post rock bands.
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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #98 on: January 19, 2022, 10:42:48 AM »
Why does everything look so great in Belgium?

Here's a few more glamour shots to sexy up the thread... :kiss: :D



Boon unblended lambiek, Restobieres, Brussels



Cantillon Chouke, Pistolet, Brussels



Sophia Lambic, Brasserie Cantillon, Brussels



3F Speling het Lot/Twisting the Fate series, Lambik-O-Droom, Lot



Cnudde Bizon, Brouwerij Cnudde, Eine



Brouwerij Het Alternatief - Bittere Waarheid, De Oude Sint Pieter, Izegem



Lindemans Goyck, lunch with BL in Antwerp

:ale: :ale: :ale:

Okay, last one:



Girardin Kriekenlambic :bow::wine: and De La Senne Zinnebir, Het Goudblommeke, Brussels
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Re: Obscure Belgians
« Reply #99 on: January 19, 2022, 03:14:13 PM »
File under mildy interesting... just found the artwork for the Dirty Horse label:



I guess the Struise fellows are into Australian post rock bands.

That band opened for Sonic Youth one time I saw them. :thumbup: