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First brew - Citra IPA - just tried the first one!
« on: September 12, 2014, 08:24:44 PM »
After having to put it off a couple of times, I'm ready to brew my first beer tonight, an extract Citra IPA.

Quick question for anyone reading since I've got a couple hours before I start, should I rehydrate my yeast before pitching? Ill be using Safale US-05 (dry). I'm leaning towards yes but am wondering if for my first beer I should keep it simple and pitch dry.

The plan is to pitch at about 67*, and ferment at 65*.

I'm doing a 2.5 gallon batch, and using my stove since I'm only boiling 3 gallons and I wanna use the last of my propane for the grill before I fill up my tank.

Wish me luck!
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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2014, 08:43:24 PM »
Ive used dry safale a handful of times just pitching it in right out of the packet and have never had an issue and they were more than 2.5 gallons. Dont see a reason to especially with that small of batch but its easy to rehydrate and if it gives you peace of mind it might be worth it. Whats your target original gravity?
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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2014, 09:25:37 PM »
Target OG is 1.061

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2014, 09:48:14 PM »
You will be fine just pitching it dry. Just pitched 05 onto a five gallon batch of a wet hop pale ale with an og of 1056 two weekends ago and it took off that  night. Bottling it on Sunday. Either way, good luck!
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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2014, 10:06:12 PM »
Thanks!

Ingredients weighed out and ready to go! Steeping as I type this.


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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2014, 10:51:46 PM »
Fermentables in, waiting for the boil.

Preliminary preboil gravity: 1.046 (refractometer). Waiting for a sample to cool for the hydrometer reading.

Started with 3 gallons hoping to end with a tad more then 2.5 gal at end of boil.

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2014, 10:54:07 PM »
Ha! Didn't expect the boil to come so quick, forgot to add the fermcap and the hot break snuck up on me. Got it under control, but dammit man that shit rose to the top of the pot quick!

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2014, 10:58:25 PM »
Ha! Didn't expect the boil to come so quick, forgot to add the fermcap and the hot break snuck up on me. Got it under control, but dammit man that shit rose to the top of the pot quick!

Yeah, you learn quick after the first time that happens.

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2014, 11:03:19 PM »
Hop schedule commencing! So far so good.

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2014, 11:05:49 PM »
Hop schedule commencing! So far so good.

What's your schedule?  All Citra or something else in there too?

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2014, 11:27:21 PM »
Hop schedule commencing! So far so good.

What's your schedule?  All Citra or something else in there too?
This one is all Citra. I'm gonna make a multi hop one in the next week or so before I go on vaca...

I tried a FWH technique that I've read sort of works for extract. Added some hops when I pulled my steeping grains, left in for the boil, and then going with this schedule:

1/4oz @ 20min
1/4oz  @10min
1/4oz @ 5 min
1/4oz @ 1min

And 1oz dry hop

Its kind of a tweaked Zombie Dust recipe...trying to clone Cycles Crank...kind of a low IBU/OG ratio - 53.1 IBU/1.061 OG...final target FG about 1.014 for an ABV about 6.2%.

Steeping Grains were 3.2oz 20L crystal (4.9%)

Extract:
2lbs Mallard golden LME (48.8%)
1lb NB super structure LME (24.4%)
14.2oz light DME (22%)
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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2014, 11:29:01 PM »
From the bill, that should be hoppy, but not very bitter, which should make it super poundable. :ale:

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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2014, 11:30:59 PM »
From the bill, that should be hoppy, but not very bitter, which should make it super poundable. :ale:
Exactly what I'm going for.

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2014, 11:33:29 PM »
I'm gonna send you a Crank Crowler in the next few weeks... I've sent one on every trade since ours and everyone has loved it. They didn't have it when we did our trade or in would have sent it.

So far I like it better than any Citra IPA I've had.

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2014, 11:47:09 PM »
From the bill, that should be hoppy, but not very bitter, which should make it super poundable. :ale:
Its actually a recipe I came up with to try and clone Crank, and I came across a ZD clone that was really similar but with diff steeping grains...when I saw the ZD recipe I figured I was on the right track. I think I'm getting the hang of this. :-)

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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2014, 11:56:43 PM »
I'm gonna send you a Crank Crowler in the next few weeks... I've sent one on every trade since ours and everyone has loved it. They didn't have it when we did our trade or in would have sent it.

So far I like it better than any Citra IPA I've had.

I'm sure I can find something to send in return.  :cheers:

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2014, 12:57:27 AM »
Aaaaaand done. Target OG was 1.061, actual was 1.058 (refractometer) and 1.060 (hydrometer @ 60*)

Pitched at 67*, fermenting at 65*, at least for the first couple of days. Might move it up to 69* or so.

Here she is in the ferm chamber. Lots of room.in there for more carboys/buckets.  :yes:



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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2014, 01:02:28 AM »
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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2014, 01:03:04 AM »
So I'm definitely buying a wort chiller. Took 35 minutes to cool to 67* in a Rubbermaid tub of icy shush with 20lbs of ice.

For a first real brew, I encountered no setbacks, everything went smooth. Now we wait.

Drinking my last Heady Topper to celebrate!

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2014, 01:04:20 AM »
I'm gonna send you a Crank Crowler in the next few weeks... I've sent one on every trade since ours and everyone has loved it. They didn't have it when we did our trade or in would have sent it.

So far I like it better than any Citra IPA I've had.

I'm sure I can find something to send in return.  :cheers:
I hear you have good access to Surly. ;)

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2014, 01:09:27 AM »
So I'm definitely buying a wort chiller. Took 35 minutes to cool to 67* in a Rubbermaid tub of icy shush with 20lbs of ice.

For a first real brew, I encountered no setbacks, everything went smooth. Now we wait.

Drinking my last Heady Topper to celebrate!

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Yeah, wort chiller is a must.  I have yet to give my plate chiller a run through.  Hopefully in a few weeks when I brew more lambic.

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2014, 09:29:03 PM »
We have krausen. Airlock is bubbling every 10-20 seconds. Took about 18 hours but its taking off now.

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2014, 10:34:03 PM »
Ferm is going nuts now. Nice thick krausen and bubbling nonstop.

Gonna let it ferment for at least 3 weeks.

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2014, 09:08:53 AM »
Ferm is going nuts now. Nice thick krausen and bubbling nonstop.

Gonna let it ferment for at least 3 weeks.

Are you doing a secondary on it?

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2014, 11:33:04 AM »
US-05 is a nice little yeast ;)

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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2014, 12:45:32 PM »
Ferm is going nuts now. Nice thick krausen and bubbling nonstop.

Gonna let it ferment for at least 3 weeks.

Are you doing a secondary on it?
I don't think so. Maybe future batches, but for my first go round I think Im gonna a keep it simple.
 


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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2014, 01:55:32 PM »
You didn't happen to jump right into kegging too, did you?

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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2014, 03:23:07 PM »
You didn't happen to jump right into kegging too, did you?
Lol nope...with these small batches I'm gonna bottle...I'm sure I'll move up to kegging when I do bigger batches and can make decent beer.

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2014, 07:22:25 PM »
5 days in the ferm chamber...moving temp up to 69.


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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2014, 10:32:08 PM »
Couldn't resist, had to take a small sample for a taste/gravity check...I know I probably shouldn't but its my first beer so I kinda had to. Been fermenting for 5 days, Krausen has crashed.

Gravity is down from 1060 to 1032...about halfway. Tastes pretty good but still pretty sweet.

Won't touch it again til Oct 4th, which will be 3 weeks. Will dry hop at that point for 5-7 days and bottle.

This is fun!

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2014, 12:15:15 AM »
Couldn't resist, had to take a small sample for a taste/gravity check...I know I probably shouldn't but its my first beer so I kinda had to. Been fermenting for 5 days, Krausen has crashed.

Gravity is down from 1060 to 1032...about halfway. Tastes pretty good but still pretty sweet.

Won't touch it again til Oct 4th, which will be 3 weeks. Will dry hop at that point for 5-7 days and bottle.

This is fun!

It it was an extract beer, expect it to finish higher than you want.  That is just the nature of the beast. 

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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2014, 02:58:26 AM »
OK so I've got a weird issue. Took another gravity reading...took a big enough sample to use a hydrometer.

Took a refactometer reading at room temp (75ish degrees), and a hydro reading at 60*.

Rafractometer (dual scale w/ATC): 1.029 (about 7.5 Brix)
Hydrometer: 1.011

Well WTF.

So I made a sugar solution of 24 grams of table sugar in 176ml water, which should have an SG of 1.048.

Both instruments read almost dead even  (refract read 1.049, hydrometer 1.048).

What gives? Is a refractometer THAT off on fermented wort?

Using 131 x (OG-FG), my abv is about 6.4%, and the wort definitely tastes like is has about 6% alcohol.

How can they read so close on sugar water but so far off on fermented wort?

Should I just ditch the refractometer when checking SG once ferm starts?

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2014, 07:16:26 AM »
OK so I've got a weird issue. Took another gravity reading...took a big enough sample to use a hydrometer.

Took a refactometer reading at room temp (75ish degrees), and a hydro reading at 60*.

Rafractometer (dual scale w/ATC): 1.029 (about 7.5 Brix)
Hydrometer: 1.011

Well WTF.

So I made a sugar solution of 24 grams of table sugar in 176ml water, which should have an SG of 1.048.

Both instruments read almost dead even  (refract read 1.049, hydrometer 1.048).

What gives? Is a refractometer THAT off on fermented wort?

Using 131 x (OG-FG), my abv is about 6.4%, and the wort definitely tastes like is has about 6% alcohol.

How can they read so close on sugar water but so far off on fermented wort?

Should I just ditch the refractometer when checking SG once ferm starts?

You have to make a correction when measuring fermented wort because the alcohol will affect the reading on a refractometer.  I just plugged your numbers into my calculator and based on your OG and your current gravity, as measured on the refractometer, your corrected gravity is 1.012.  You can use this link: http://www.northernbrewer.com/refractometer-calculator/ and use the middle calculator:
Brix to Gravity during and after fermentation converter

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2014, 08:55:34 AM »
Just a guess..... but Wingnut had Blichman kettles, right?  ;)

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2014, 11:12:45 AM »
OK so I've got a weird issue. Took another gravity reading...took a big enough sample to use a hydrometer.

Took a refactometer reading at room temp (75ish degrees), and a hydro reading at 60*.

Rafractometer (dual scale w/ATC): 1.029 (about 7.5 Brix)
Hydrometer: 1.011

Well WTF.

So I made a sugar solution of 24 grams of table sugar in 176ml water, which should have an SG of 1.048.

Both instruments read almost dead even  (refract read 1.049, hydrometer 1.048).

What gives? Is a refractometer THAT off on fermented wort?

Using 131 x (OG-FG), my abv is about 6.4%, and the wort definitely tastes like is has about 6% alcohol.

How can they read so close on sugar water but so far off on fermented wort?

Should I just ditch the refractometer when checking SG once ferm starts?

You have to make a correction when measuring fermented wort because the alcohol will affect the reading on a refractometer.  I just plugged your numbers into my calculator and based on your OG and your current gravity, as measured on the refractometer, your corrected gravity is 1.012.  You can use this link: http://www.northernbrewer.com/refractometer-calculator/ and use the middle calculator:
Brix to Gravity during and after fermentation converter
Sweet, thanks! I actually searched for a way to convert but I was buzzed and gave up after like 10 minutes because I couldn't grasp the math...I knew it would be off but didnt think by that much...figured asking here would be better and I was right.

So its actually finishing at a bit lower gravity than I expected (target FG was 1.014). I'll take it.

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Re: Brew night is here. Cherry poppin time!
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2014, 12:36:18 PM »
Just a guess..... but Wingnut had Blichman kettles, right?  ;)
Lol...aluminum turkey fryer pot....for now. ;D

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Re: First brews bottled! time to start a couple more...
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2014, 06:13:56 PM »
So got my first beers bottled. Went smooth, but trub loss was more than expected. From 3.5 total gallons, I ended up with 22 16oz beers (about 2.75 gallons of product). I didn't strain either batch before going into the fermenters, from now on I will.

So why didn't anyone tell me making a 1 gal batch was a waste of time?  ;)

As an experiment, I primed the 1 gal batch (NB Dead Ringer IPA w/Citra and Mosaic added) with fizz drops that came with a kit. The 2.5 gal Citra IPA got primed with corn sugar.

Might make a new batch of something tonight, and another in a week or 2 to get a pipeline going.

FG of the Citra IPA is 1.011 (6.4% ABV)
FG of the dead Ringer is 1.013 (7% ABV)

I've got a kit of White House Honey Ale that I'm gonna do next, and I've got a bunch of hops to use so another IPA is gonna happen, maybe a DIPA...just gotta figure a hop combo to use.

Can't wait to try these beers!




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Re: First brews bottled! time to start a couple more...
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2014, 08:52:12 PM »
It's kind of addictive, isn't it?  Hope it all turned out great.

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Re: First brew - just drank the dirst one!
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2014, 07:17:14 PM »
So I just tried one for the first time...13 days in the bottle...when I popped the top I got a great POP...poured it...nice head that subsided a bit after a minute...looked great and I could smell the Citra the second I popped the top...its a little darker than I was going for but its got a slight haze, which is exactly what I wanted...overall I'm super happy with how it looks!

Then I tasted it...WOW! Its a little green and needs to round out a bit, but holy crap it turned out great, and better than I expected. Great Citra flavor, nice bitterness with a bit of malt sweetness...I didn't chill it, poured it straight from the closet, but I am blown away by how good it is! Now I can't wait to let it sit for another week and see if its even better.

I definitely need to tweak the recipe and up the IBUs a bit...its good but needs more bitter.



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Re: First brew - Citra IPA - just tried the first one!
« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2014, 08:23:52 AM »
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