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UPDATE: they finally died... completely natural causes too :unsure:


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Finally planted 4 rhizomes today, thanks Severstad :wub:



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Damn you and your climate! Mine are about 2 feet tall at this point.

On a side note, too late to move them this summer?

I would say go ahead, you can't kill the damn things except that I did manage to kill of my Willamettes.

I have been trying to kill mine for years, they just won't die.

 :lol: I was patiently awaiting your comments.

They survived the move, but haven't grown much since. Hopefully next year they'll go crazy.


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It hasn't quite been 2 weeks yet, but the main shoots are still green. Leaves died the first week so I trimmed them, they get water every other day, hoping to see something by next week :coffee: Should I use any fertilizer?

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It hasn't quite been 2 weeks yet, but the main shoots are still green. Leaves died the first week so I trimmed them, they get water every other day, hoping to see something by next week :coffee: Should I use any fertilizer?

My guess is half of the shoots won't make it. That's why I gave you so many.

I don't think fertilizer is necessary. I've never used any. Once in a while, I'll pour a beer on mine. Kind of cannibalistic, I guess. But, they seem to like it.

Do they get plenty of sun?

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It hasn't quite been 2 weeks yet, but the main shoots are still green. Leaves died the first week so I trimmed them, they get water every other day, hoping to see something by next week :coffee: Should I use any fertilizer?

My guess is half of the shoots won't make it. That's why I gave you so many.

I don't think fertilizer is necessary. I've never used any. Once in a while, I'll pour a beer on mine. Kind of cannibalistic, I guess. But, they seem to like it.

Do they get plenty of sun?
Yes, they all get a few daily hours of sun. Is it too late for new shoots to start up?

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It hasn't quite been 2 weeks yet, but the main shoots are still green. Leaves died the first week so I trimmed them, they get water every other day, hoping to see something by next week :coffee: Should I use any fertilizer?

My guess is half of the shoots won't make it. That's why I gave you so many.

I don't think fertilizer is necessary. I've never used any. Once in a while, I'll pour a beer on mine. Kind of cannibalistic, I guess. But, they seem to like it.

Do they get plenty of sun?
Yes, they all get a few daily hours of sun. Is it too late for new shoots to start up?

Probably too early for new shoots. But, not impossible.
I have a feeling that the plant's energy is going into establishing what was planted, not growing new stuff. Still in survival mode.

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It hasn't quite been 2 weeks yet, but the main shoots are still green. Leaves died the first week so I trimmed them, they get water every other day, hoping to see something by next week :coffee: Should I use any fertilizer?

My guess is half of the shoots won't make it. That's why I gave you so many.

I don't think fertilizer is necessary. I've never used any. Once in a while, I'll pour a beer on mine. Kind of cannibalistic, I guess. But, they seem to like it.

Do they get plenty of sun?
Yes, they all get a few daily hours of sun. Is it too late for new shoots to start up?

Probably too early for new shoots. But, not impossible.
I have a feeling that the plant's energy is going into establishing what was planted, not growing new stuff. Still in survival mode.
Sounds like just a little more patience and maybe pouring a beer out for my dead hop homies...

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Re: Growing my own hops this year. Experiences? I'll update this like a semi-blog.
« Reply #408 on: September 19, 2013, 12:59:55 PM »
Welp, out of the 5, one has flourished. Will post a pic later, but it's probably grown 6"-8" in the last month.
Hoping the others haven't completely died... I still water the general area.

Guess I can order and plant rhizomes next spring if they don't come back :(

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Here's the one that grew:


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Anyone going to have any rhizomes available this year.  If so, what varieties?

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Welp, out of the 5, one has flourished. Will post a pic later, but it's probably grown 6"-8" in the last month.
Hoping the others haven't completely died... I still water the general area.

Guess I can order and plant rhizomes next spring if they don't come back :(
http://www.brewandgrow.com/hop-rhizomes.html
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Pre-order deadline 2/27/2014

Dammit :hot:

Hopefully the ones from Severstad grow back, there was only one that was healthy by the end of last fall.

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Welp, out of the 5, one has flourished. Will post a pic later, but it's probably grown 6"-8" in the last month.
Hoping the others haven't completely died... I still water the general area.

Guess I can order and plant rhizomes next spring if they don't come back :(
http://www.brewandgrow.com/hop-rhizomes.html
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Pre-order deadline 2/27/2014

Dammit :hot:

Hopefully the ones from Severstad grow back, there was only one that was healthy by the end of last fall.

There are all sorts of other places that sell rhizomes.  Northern Brewer, Midwest Supplies, Hops Direct, etc...

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Welp, out of the 5, one has flourished. Will post a pic later, but it's probably grown 6"-8" in the last month.
Hoping the others haven't completely died... I still water the general area.

Guess I can order and plant rhizomes next spring if they don't come back :(
http://www.brewandgrow.com/hop-rhizomes.html
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Pre-order deadline 2/27/2014

Dammit :hot:

Hopefully the ones from Severstad grow back, there was only one that was healthy by the end of last fall.

There are all sorts of other places that sell rhizomes.  Northern Brewer, Midwest Supplies, Hops Direct, etc...
Do they all pre-order though? Was hoping not to have to resort to mailorder.
I've got a buddy that grows hops near Janesville, so I may be able to mooch some once we all thaw out :D

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I was going to until I found out hops are poisonous for dogs, and mine is definitely dumb enough to eat them.

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I was going to until I found out hops are poisonous for dogs, and mine is definitely dumb enough to eat them.
Bummer. Maybe a raised bed with a small fence would keep the dog out?

If they are poisonous to squirrels, I have an idea :ninja:

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I was going to until I found out hops are poisonous for dogs, and mine is definitely dumb enough to eat them.
Bummer. Maybe a raised bed with a small fence would keep the dog out?

If they are poisonous to squirrels, I have an idea :ninja:

Not likely.  He's pretty resourceful.  I was going to do them horizontally on the back side of my fence, but I still fear he'd stick his snout in there and get to them.  After he ate my trees, I don't trust him with anything.

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I was going to until I found out hops are poisonous for dogs, and mine is definitely dumb enough to eat them.

That was my fear too, but my dog is pretty choosy with what she eats.  Tomatoes out of the garden though....

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I was going to until I found out hops are poisonous for dogs, and mine is definitely dumb enough to eat them.

Only after being boiled... (I think, the google should give a definitive answer).

Source: My neighbor told me that after he got a puppy and I warned him about my hops that are growing near his dog run.
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Ordered a couple Columbus rhizomes and also have a line on a Wisco-grown Cascade rhizome that's supposedly a beast. :thumbup:

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Anyone going to have any rhizomes available this year.  If so, what varieties?

I trimmed my hops (cascade) a couple of weeks ago and re-planted some of the cuttings.  I wish I had known then, I would have cut you some.  4 of the 7 cuttings I planted in 3 gallon containers have already sprouted.  Considering building another trellis.
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Looks like I'll be trimming the weaker 20 or so bines...

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Are those just dark wood chips, or spent wood charcoal?

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Are those just dark wood chips, or spent wood charcoal?

Just some random wood in a potting/garden soil mix that I dumped on the plants at the end of last season
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Freeze warning tonight, some of my bines are close to 5' tall.   :thumbdown: :(

 
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No signs of life yet... snowed yesterday <_<

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I don't think it actually got below freezing at the house last night.  I hung tarps from the trellis to offer some protection so I don't think the bines got frost bitten.  I guess we will see.
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I don't think it actually got below freezing at the house last night.  I hung tarps from the trellis to offer some protection so I don't think the bines got frost bitten.  I guess we will see.

Sounds like they'll be fine...

Do you get a lot of direct sun? Wondering as I'm a first timer, and have limited direct sun in the postage stamp of a backyard we have.

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I don't think it actually got below freezing at the house last night.  I hung tarps from the trellis to offer some protection so I don't think the bines got frost bitten.  I guess we will see.

Sounds like they'll be fine...

Do you get a lot of direct sun? Wondering as I'm a first timer, and have limited direct sun in the postage stamp of a backyard we have.

Late morning to nearly sundown. 
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Is it too late to plant hops at this point in the year or am I still good?
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Is it too late to plant hops at this point in the year or am I still good?

Nothing is planted in the midwest yet, so I don't see why you couldn't try.  Yield isn't big year one anyways. :shrug:

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Getting a couple Columbus rhizomes delivered this week finally.

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Is it too late to plant hops at this point in the year or am I still good?

Nothing is planted in the midwest yet, so I don't see why you couldn't try.  Yield isn't big year one anyways. :shrug:

Agreed, you will be fine getting them in the ground now.
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My trellis is 9' tall, I have 1 bine that has already reached beyond the top and 6-8 more (across 2 mature plants) that are within a foot of the top.  I have been cutting back new shoots and focusing on the bines trained to the trellis.  With all the growth already I'm expecting some early production. 

I know with some plants that harvesting early and the right way will encourage a second harvest of sorts (e.g. some pepper varieties).  Anyone know if hops can work this way.  I have the Homebewer's Garden at home but didn't think about this until my morning commute, so I thought I'd ask here until I can get to the book.
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Coldchill's bump just prompted me to check my hops, which I thought I finally killed dead last year. Nope, those mother fuckers are back with a vengeance.  I thought I dug them all up last year, but they just will not die.

They are spread out way more than before... I may just let them take over my deck this year. Shit.

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Coldchill's bump just prompted me to check my hops, which I thought I finally killed dead last year. Nope, those mother fuckers are back with a vengeance.  I thought I dug them all up last year, but they just will not die.

They are spread out way more than before... I may just let them take over my deck this year. Shit.

 :lol: :lol:....I mean, sorry to hear that, man. :mellow:
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I don't think it actually got below freezing at the house last night.  I hung tarps from the trellis to offer some protection so I don't think the bines got frost bitten.  I guess we will see.

Looks like they survived...




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How many should I leave to grow, and how can I use the clipping to stay new ones?


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Maybe trim the shoots and keep in fresh water/sunlight until they sprout some roots, then re-plant?

Planted rhizomes 11 days ago, nothing green showing yet. It's been raining all week and supposed to be 60's this weekend, so i'm optimistic. It took 2 wks. last year for the cuttings to grow IIRC.

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5 healthy shoots coming up finally! Took a little over 2 weeks after planting the new rhizomes.
The first one to sprout was the one planted last year from Severstad :cheers:
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Make that 11! Looks like a bunch more just popped up today :thumbup:

Edit: just found a recipe for pickled hop shoots, sounds good. another one. ok, 1 more... This one sounds the best IMO, a Flemish dish w/poached egg, salmon, and cream sauce.
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How many should I leave to grow, and how can I use the clipping to stay new ones?

This is from the info sheet from Northern Brewer:

"After they are a foot tall, trim back all but 2-3 of the heartiest looking vines and wrap them clockwise around a trellis or support. Prune all subsequent vines from the base of the hop."

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So a friend gave me an entire Cascade plant, I trimmed it down, and the thing was still about 2 feet long and a foot deep. Rearranged my other plants so it will have the 2 largest deck stair supports to climb. Supposedly it's a mean green beast :rock:

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Woke up  this morning to find my most promising plant half out of the ground. Luckily those little effers didn't break the bines, but it can't be good. Somehow they got the piece of chicken wire off that they were threaded through.

I'm thinking a super soaker with hot chile infused water might be in order...


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Woke up  this morning to find my most promising plant half out of the ground. Luckily those little effers didn't break the bines, but it can't be good. Somehow they got the piece of chicken wire off that they were threaded through.

I'm thinking a super soaker with hot chile infused water might be in order...



Damn fluffy tailed rats. 
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I posted this on facebook....little baby hoplets

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Woke up  this morning to find my most promising plant half out of the ground. Luckily those little effers didn't break the bines, but it can't be good. Somehow they got the piece of chicken wire off that they were threaded through.

I'm thinking a super soaker with hot chile infused water might be in order...



Damn fluffy tailed rats.
Came home to another dug up rhizome. Dumped half a jar of red pepper flakes on everything...
taste the rainbow you furry little motherfuckers. :mellow: